Oct. 6, 2026

How the American Lean Act Can Fix Congressional Gridlock (Keith Barton)

How the American Lean Act Can Fix Congressional Gridlock (Keith Barton)
World Ablaze with George Fontes
How the American Lean Act Can Fix Congressional Gridlock (Keith Barton)

World Ablaze with George Fontes delivers unfiltered, no-bullshit conversations and hard-hitting unfiltered commentary on politics, news, and geopolitics.

Keith Barton—a 20-year Marine Corps veteran, former military aviator, author, and candidate for Texas Congressional District 23 joins the show. Barton outlines a pragmatic, data-driven blueprint to overhaul how Congress operates from the inside out.

At the heart of the discussion is the American Lean Act, Barton’s proposed "parallel operating system" for Congress. Built on Lean Six Sigma principles, the framework requires lawmakers to submit plain-language, short legislative "modules" that target root causes without raising taxes, adding spending, or cutting essential services.

Beyond legislative reform, Barton shares actionable, data-driven solutions for federal agency accountability, border security, family court reform, and infrastructure modernization.

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00:00 - Introduction: Marine Corps Veteran and Author Keith Barton

03:15 - What is the American Lean Act? A New Operating System for Congress

11:00 - Saving $75 Billion at the VA Through Contract Enforcement

21:30 - Smart Border Security: Drones vs. $24M/Mile Walls

29:00 - Fixing Texas Infrastructure: Water Leaks and SMR Nuclear Energy

01:05:00 - Family Court Reform: Repealing Title 4D and Promoting 50/50 Custody

01:17:00 - Keith Barton’s Books: From Hard Sci-Fi to STEM Children's Literature

01:25:00 - Closing Thoughts and Where to Find Keith Barton

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welcome back to another world of blaze uh today i have special guest keith barton um let me read

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my notes over here. Keith Barton, 20-year Marine Corps veteran, former military aviator, author,

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congressional candidate for Texas District 23, and an advocate for family court reform.

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Today, Keith develops legislative proposals focused on government efficiency, veterans,

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workforce development, stronger families. Reforming how Congress itself operates at

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the center of that work is the American LEAN Act, a proposal for a new operating system for

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Congress built around measurable results, fiscal discipline, government efficiency,

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and continuous improvement rather than simply creating more programs and spending more money.

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Outside politics and policy, Keith is a prolific author whose work ranges from children's books

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to military thrillers, science fiction, and other fiction inspired by his experiences and interests.

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So with all of that, let's bring Keith in. Let's have a conversation, Keith.

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great george i can't wait thanks for having me on no thanks for uh making the time and as we

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discussed offline uh you were running for texas district 23 looks like brandon herrera got that

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vote for the general election coming up in november but you're still going to run so right

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now you're working on 2028 already which is very good of you man stay consistent and persistent on

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this and uh with that being said you know i actually do want to ask you uh what was it like

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running for Congress this year so far,

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even though you didn't get the vote,

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it doesn't matter.

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How was it?

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And what are you going to do for 2028 coming up?

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Well, it was a whirlwind.

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So I joined late.

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I only ran 85 days

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and I still got 8.5% of the vote.

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So zero name recognition to that.

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So I think I did really well,

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including beating a former congressman of the district.

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I also, when you look at the numbers

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and how the voting kind of worked out.

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If I didn't run, Tony Gonzalez might have actually gotten over 50%.

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Most of my votes most likely came from him.

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So, yeah, it was a good thing.

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Brandon Herrera and I, we talk all the time still.

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So that's fine.

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I'm just kind of staying out of his way so he can get the ticket.

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Right.

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But he knew next day that I was already running.

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As you should.

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Yes, sir.

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So what did you learn that you're going to take with you into 2028?

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Well, because of my short time frame, I needed to concentrate on the district first.

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So I developed all my plans for the district, but I didn't really have a full national platform.

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It was only in its infancy at that point.

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And that's what became the American Lean Act like you talked about.

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So it's not just a list of bills.

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I wanted to go to actually fix things.

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And so really what it is, when you look at what Doge did, they were an advisory board.

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They really couldn't do anything, right?

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They needed Congress to pass it.

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Well, there's your root cause right there.

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You have to change how Congress does business or it's never going to change.

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And that's what the American Lean Act is.

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It's an operating system to literally get them to start doing things right.

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When did you introduce that?

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So the main crown jewel of it I introduced before the election.

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And then I started the operating system, maybe April-ish timeframe.

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And then it just continues to build as I find more and more things to go after.

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So my set of bills that are in there right now are basically a proof of concept.

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And then starting year two, the way it works is every legislator can submit a bill as part of the American Annual Lien Act.

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But it has certain what I call guardrails.

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And I call those bills modules on purpose because I want them to change their mindset.

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Those guardrails include things like it's got to be written short.

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It attacks the root cause in plain language so everybody can read it.

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It can't spend any money or increase taxes, and it can't cut any services.

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And that's like every politician's game plan right there, right?

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That's the complete opposite of what they do.

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And so they think it's impossible.

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And I'm like, no, it's not.

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And here's my proof of concept.

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So right now there's 16 modules in it.

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But then starting year two, I would have the same restrictions as everybody else, one module a year.

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And the purpose of that is to make sure that people actually attack a single root cause and really put the work in to actually figure it out.

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Because the bills might be short, but all the work comes on the front side figuring it out and actually dive it in.

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And so it's actually much harder to write something simple than it is a 2000 page bill.

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I think it's great when people push for simple, clean language that people can understand.

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Lawyers get their hands evolved and become so convoluted.

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Too many big words.

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Nothing against big words.

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I mean, I'm all for playing with words.

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It's great to challenge your intellect and learning these words and jumping through the hoops of lawyer speak to understand language.

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It's fun.

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It's fun.

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But at the same time, the average American doesn't have time for that BS.

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They just want to know what it is you're introducing, what it's about, and is it worth the vote?

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That's what it's about.

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And many times we don't get the vote.

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We leave it in the hands of the legislature to make those decisions because you are the elected representative.

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So the other thing I find interesting, Keith, is this.

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When I talk to someone like you running for Congress who wants to reform Congress.

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And that in and of itself is very interesting to me because most people don't want to shoot themselves in the foot before they get in.

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And some of those reforms usually, and I think you might be on the same page, you would include like term limits, etc.

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and then there's also the other thing in congress don't know if you're for this but

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the fact that they are the ones that can vote on their own salary increases their own benefits

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etc without any outside oversight which is a little crazy to me so in in in your attempt to

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reform congress what else are you including or advocating for well so first off to battle that

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pushback on the American Lean Act. That's why it's a parallel system.

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I'm not trying to change everything at once. All those rules are within

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the American Lean Act. That'd be quite a battle. Right, exactly.

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But then as soon as the American public sees how well it works,

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then they're going to wonder, why aren't we doing everything else like this?

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Yes, on term limits, I'm absolutely for it. But my thought process on term limits is

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Congress will never vote themselves out. No, they won't. So the only way

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to do that is to, for the voters to elect in people like me that are going in with a self-imposed

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term limit. And once you get enough of those, then we could actually vote in term limits.

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And in my thought process, I think I'm only going to do three, but I think Congress should be limited

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to four terms and Senate to two terms. And I say that even though the founding fathers didn't

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technically say that.

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They still wanted citizen legislators.

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they never expected. I mean, look how long

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it was before the amendment was

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passed to have term limits on the president.

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Everybody before that, before

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FDR, it was just...

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We only do two.

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It was not enforced.

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suggestion more than anything.

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But there wasn't in the beginning

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any term limits on the presidency.

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Nope. And then FDR changed all that. And then everybody's like, okay, now we need term limits.

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So, and then I'm sorry, what was the last topic?

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And the question, well, no, it was, it was basically you're answering it. It was,

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it was really, what else did you think that you'd be able to include in the reform? And then,

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you know, since, since you kind of brought it up also, I mean, the battles you're going to perceive

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trying to do this once you're in Congress, because I mean, how, what kind of support

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you're thinking to get from the people as someone that's stepping into such a system that is so

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entrenched and used to getting what they get and having the power they have almost unchecked.

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I mean, what does that battle you think it'll look like for you?

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Well, I'll give you a story because it's already working.

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Let's go.

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And I haven't said this publicly yet.

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So you get the first time.

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So on August 26th, I was at Carlos Dela Cruz's veteran event.

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And in one of the back rooms, we had a veteran roundtable.

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And I was briefing him because I didn't get in and I've gotten closer with Carlos.

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I'm like, hey, man, you can do this the moment you get in this to fix the VA without legislation.

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Well, the speaker was coming.

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So Mike Johnson came.

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I was in the middle of my brief.

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Carlos had me start over.

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And the speaker said, told me, get him some information that he was going to do it.

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And I wrote a two page white paper.

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It went up through Carlos and another guy up to him.

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But eight days later, after that roundtable, Congress repeated Larry Ellison.

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So my proposal to him was we have to fix the VA.

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It's really the only move, the major move we have to do is hold Oracle to their contract to install the universal health care system that is 10 years and billions of dollars behind.

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And it's not so much the cost of putting it in.

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it's the savings to the VA,

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which I calculate could be up to 75 billion a year.

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So that's that required no legislation.

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It's just simply holding them the contract.

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And if you know anything about Larry Ellison,

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he will straight up tell you,

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he will take advantage of a contract to you hold them accountable.

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And he'll actually expect you more because you do hold them accountable.

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Boom.

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Now he's being subpoenaed.

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So it's that kind of mindset that when I go fight these people on Capitol

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they're,

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where are they going to go?

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because it's not ideological battles.

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It's all the stuff we want to do.

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And that's exactly like every module in the American Lean Act.

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It's, dude, this is data.

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This is root cause.

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And this is actually fixing things.

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And you can take all the emotion out of it.

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And I even attack some very emotional things within it.

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But I do it through data and Lean Six Sigma.

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And I truly believe that it's going to be very hard for people to fight me on it.

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Um, also with the speaker though, he kind of already knew who I was thanks to a friend of mine named Walter West.

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And he told him about my child court reform, which if you know anything about the speaker, he is all about that.

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He just, there's nobody's been able to have the right plan to actually fix it.

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So we'll get into your child court reform advocacy.

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Cause I was interested in, in, uh, what led you there.

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But I, before we hit that, um, tell me what motivated you to get involved because most people sit on the sidelines.

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or they want to get involved

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but have no idea how to start

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or where to go to make things happen.

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So what was your story

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leading to you running for Congress?

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It was the two things.

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So first off, it was the child court reform

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and then it was seeing the horrific job

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Tony Gonzalez was doing.

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And I'm not even talking about

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all his personal issues,

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which were already terrible.

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But he's just a terrible congressman.

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When we talk about open borders,

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he only cared about it

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at election time right here and you know and i went to some of these towns and you know with

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people still taking their garbage out armed or helicopters still flying over and telling them

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there's cartel members in town and he just ignored it um water issues everything anything and

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everything he was just more about power and money and saving face so um those two things kind of

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spurred me. And I said, fine.

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It just nudged you to just step up and say, I'm going to take care of my backyard.

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Yep. And that's what, and exactly, once I actually did the

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plan, I realized that I only need three terms to do the plan. It's really only

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two terms to get it in, and it's a third term to make sure it sticks. Then I'm done.

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That's, you know, again, citizen legislator.

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I didn't want to do, no, no career politicians for me.

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I think 26 years of federal service is enough Yeah exactly So and we will talk about the family court reform here but before then

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I was going to ask you,

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what's the political

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pulse in Texas right now?

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what are the issues you guys are facing

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in Texas that are relevant to the rest

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of the nation? Because if you're looking at

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social media, you don't even know what to believe.

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Right? Yeah.

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But as someone on the ground in Texas, what are the real issues that you guys are facing that you yourself want to handle and take care of on day one?

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Yeah.

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So it's actually a laundry list.

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So first off, it starts with a border.

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My idea is a defensive depth, just like the military.

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If that's ever-changing, not a full wall, actually a smart border wall that it doesn't cost nearly as much.

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And I've done all the math.

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My plan is roughly 20% cost of what is actually planned.

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So that's key.

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That's where the other part is Texas is growing so fast.

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We need to increase its energy output.

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So we have to work on its energy grid or it's not going to keep up because it's the fastest growing state, not only in population, but in even the numbers of headquarters that are moving here, mostly from New York and California.

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So that need is crazy.

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And it's going to become very soon the financial hub of the country.

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So we like to joke here in Texas, as Texas goes, the country goes.

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And I don't think there's any other way to put it.

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So that's very key for the rest of the country, including all the AI.

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I'm not totally against AI data centers.

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I am in my district.

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But that's because of a resource shortfall. And then the other thing that's really important to me for the rest of the country is we have to unlock the rest of the natural gas in West Texas. And we also need to use the expertise of those drillers and eventually develop geothermal.

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and it's the best place in the world to actually do that because we'll have the technology and the

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time and whatnot so if i can unlock natural gas if we can use smr so small modular nuclear

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power plants to kind of get everything going and going down that road if texas can unlock

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geothermal it would be a game changer for everybody we just right now we can't

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get deep enough in enough places to actually use it and uh and i think that would be a huge boost

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to the rest of the country.

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You know, when it comes to the power grid,

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I was literally going to bring that up.

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It should beat me to it.

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It's like, why not consider

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small nuclear power plants?

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I'm all about it.

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Why not?

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I mean, the technology is advanced.

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It's clean.

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It's safe.

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You could use spent rods

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that still have about 300 years left on them.

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I mean, it doesn't make any sense

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not to put that technology out there into use,

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especially in Texas.

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I mean, you guys have, unfortunately,

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it's shown that your grid is not reliable,

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especially when you had those storms

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not too long ago

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with all the freezing couldn't even keep up.

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And you had people living in the cold.

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It makes no sense not to tap into those technologies of nuclear today.

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Right.

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It's not what it used to be.

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It is much safer, much more efficient in how it's used, how they design it.

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And again, we could take advantage of spent rods instead of just leaving them buried in

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the dirt somewhere.

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Exactly.

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And we spend more on our big power lines.

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And that's actually one of the big fights in my district.

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It's just they're doing all these transfer power lines that aren't even going to be used for the residents.

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They're going to be used for commercial usage.

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It's like, well, you could spend a fourth of the cost and have SMRs and power it anyway.

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And then we're not doing imminent domain or...

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It's just terrible.

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It's like a damn spiderweb everywhere.

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Right.

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You could absolutely do it smarter.

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Well, be careful, though.

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You're going to be taking union jobs, right?

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You're going to get that put in your neck.

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I am not a fan of unions, okay?

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My idea of unions.

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Oh, you brought it up.

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So I got to tell you.

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All right.

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If a company takes care of its people,

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there's no need for a union.

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If.

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Yes.

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If.

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Yeah.

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And you're probably mostly going to get that

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from small mom and pops

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rather than large corporations, unfortunately.

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So let's back up a bit to the border security.

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I want you to expand on that proposal

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of using a smart border wall.

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and also if you can elaborate on if you think we do have an illegal or undocumented,

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I don't care what word you want to use, but basically a border situation with people crossing here

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without valid reason or any permission. Let's just say that.

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So we've seen obviously a drastic decline in illegal aliens crossing.

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I think at this point our biggest threat is the cartels.

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and so there's several things that go into that and um so it's kind of twofold so first we'll look

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at big bend right one of the most beautiful natural parks in the in the country um they're

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putting up in the rio grande they're you they're spending five and a half million dollars a mile

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to put these floating barriers that people just boat out and crawl over and then swim across

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That's ridiculous.

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Ridiculous.

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And when the Big Bend area only gives us less than 1% of our crossings.

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And again, it's mostly cartels.

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There's no roads.

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And then, and I've been trying to fight this too, but it's been hard, no power.

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They want to do 17 miles of the, I can't remember, 100 and something miles of border for Big Bend with vehicle barriers, which is great.

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I'm actually okay with that instead of a big wall.

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The problem is I looked at the contract instead of going two foot deeper with these poles so they could just stay vertical.

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Yeah.

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They're using horizontal lines too, which means big game can't get to the river.

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Epically stupid.

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Right.

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I mean, it's just, again, the difference between an operator like me versus a politician.

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Right.

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Just look at the damn contract, man.

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Think through this.

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And then as far as the cartels.

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So, and this is actually another issue I had with Tony Gonzalez.

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I'm also a drone guy, big time. And he got money to University of Texas in El Paso to develop an anti-signal to disrupt the signal between the drones coming across the border and the controller.

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Okay. Yeah.

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Again, well, you're not an operator, idiot. We're trying to expand our drone network and you're going to throw this weapon out there that's going to disrupt ours and could hurt our aircraft too.

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Instead of just saying, and DHS has already told him exactly what he needed.

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They needed high rate rubber bullets.

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They needed the shoulder mounted nets and the anti-lasers.

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And all of those are man portable and they can still fly our offensive drones.

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And it's cheaper.

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No, Tony's been in millions for something instead of actually listening to guys on the ground going, this is all we need, guys.

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That's it.

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Just give me what I need.

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We already know.

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We already figured this all out.

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So I would absolutely want to, in the areas that we can substitute actually having a big wall with drones and solar powered camera stations, things like that.

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And you do your interdiction timing.

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Once something's detected, how fast can we get there?

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There's no need for a wall.

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And it's a lot cheaper.

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So we're talking my plan for those portions would be 1.2 million a mile.

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So let me interject here.

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So the drone thing makes a lot of sense for us to actually use it.

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The weapon that Gonzalez wants to put in to disrupt the signal is kind of asinine unless you can absolutely avoid a dedicated proprietary signal that the U.S. military uses.

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But if you do that, you're still opening up the cartels to being able to find that signal and use it as well.

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So it makes no sense.

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I get it.

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Now, as far as the walls, I got to ask you, why are you opposed to a wall?

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Is it because of the wildlife or is it just the cost?

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I'm not opposed to the wall everywhere.

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I'm opposed to the cost and applying it to places that aren't crossed a lot.

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Gotcha.

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Right?

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Where it makes sense and where it doesn't, you're going to need the drones and actual physical people to manage those areas.

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Exactly. Because when you just look at it from a cost aspect, it's $22 to $24 million a mile.

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It is a lot.

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Right? Versus 1.2 a mile for the areas that we can use it.

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And then, again, even the floating ones down the Del Rio that actually do all sorts of stuff to the environment is $5.5 million a mile.

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So there's a huge cost savings in here also.

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And then, obviously, within those areas, technology improves.

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You can adjust. You can't really adjust the wall once it's in.

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So, yeah, I think every mile should be customized, essentially.

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I want you to expand on something.

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Sure.

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Because every time the border is brought up, all people think about are illegal immigrants, right?

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But the thing in Texas that I know from talking to other journalists is that the cartel element is a real thing and a real threat there.

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So can you expand on what the threats from the cartel are on the borders of Texas over there?

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obviously the biggest one is drugs

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and they're getting it crossed

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and I love the fact

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that we have battled the

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fentanyl issue

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and all that but that's really where

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it is and it's the money laundering

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and then the other one that's really really

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horrible is the moral

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aspect of human trafficking

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so between drugs and human

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trafficking we have to stop it

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period and so yeah again

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that's why when I'm thinking about

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the wall. That's what I'm thinking about. Defensive depth

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just like in the Marine Corps. I'm trying to...

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Because the cartel is...

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I mean, they're a smart business. These guys

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are not stupid. They just have a legal

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commodity. They're not going to lose their money.

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Nope.

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You're right. So you've got to

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fight them smart.

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Stopping people is a lot easier than stopping the

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cartels. But if you stop the cartels,

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you stop the people.

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I talked to... I don't even know if you know

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him. Journalist John Carlos

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Frey, who actually

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spent time down there and put a documentary together about all that and he he kind of like

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he's the one who drove home or pioneered the uh opening up people's eyes to the human trafficking

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side out there i mean the drugs were always going to be a thing yeah but but the amount of human

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human trafficking and how that they take advantage of people uh for various things from slavery to

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sex is is ridiculous and something that's not talked about enough no all they want to hear is

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the headline of how many drugs they seized but they're not talking about how many people they

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saved if they did, which is also another issue.

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And the kids, even worse, the trafficking of those kids and all those kids we lost.

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And it primarily is kids that are targeted. Absolutely. It's crazy.

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So what is not being done at the borders right now

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as far as our services

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like using our National Guard or our border protection

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agencies, etc. Is there anything not happening that should be happening

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with those are they being used efficiently and effectively um the wall is going in too slow

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okay right in the areas they already designated and then the areas that they're not putting the

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wall they're going too fast i know that sounds crazy but because they're not doing things like

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you know and i'm a republican but man when you're not doing your environmental impact surveys and

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like you know just like those water those floating barriers they're gonna mess with all the wildlife

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that rely on that river and that's not okay.

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Hey, Republicans, they care about the environment.

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I love the outdoors.

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I mean, I don't even know where it came from

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that we don't like the outdoors.

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It makes no sense.

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Hey, deer taste good, man.

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We got to take care of them.

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But Keith, outside of the wall though,

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I'm talking about like agents, you know what I mean?

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Actual people, like are they getting the resources they need?

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Are they being used effectively and efficiently?

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No.

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And part of that is logistics procurement.

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and so I've actually part of my American Lean Act I worked on that too there's a lot of red tape

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instead of standardizing the equipment that you can use on the wall and using GSA Advantage to

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let them easily order it without going through all the red tape to do it so that's one thing I

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worked on and I've talked to numerous border agents and I've even talked to an Adam Bauman

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now a good friend of mine he running in CD16 in El Paso and he was border control agent forever And then the other thing with with them is again back to holding companies their damn government contracts is the technology at the

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ports of entry right it's it's well behind and they're not um they're not living up to their

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contracts once we can get that those in we're going to get better fedding on people we're going

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to get faster throughput on the product that needs to cross the border that's an economic

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boost, right? I mean, there's a bunch. I mean, especially in the southern states of America,

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we're getting a ton of our product from Mexico. And a lot of times it spoils because it can't

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go through the border fast enough. It's unreal. And again-

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Yeah, wasted food and product, yeah.

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Right? But these congressmen don't use all these other powers at their disposal,

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like oversight and contract enforcement.

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So that's how I looked at my district of,

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when I made my plan,

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can I do this without legislation?

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Because the freshmen,

453
00:27:05,154 --> 00:27:07,094
they're not going to listen to me.

454
00:27:07,934 --> 00:27:09,114
It's going to be an uphill battle,

455
00:27:09,194 --> 00:27:10,514
but it doesn't mean you stay silent, right?

456
00:27:10,694 --> 00:27:11,834
No, you're right.

457
00:27:12,014 --> 00:27:12,574
And that's why,

458
00:27:12,574 --> 00:27:13,634
but for my district,

459
00:27:13,734 --> 00:27:14,974
because I've already figured out a plan

460
00:27:14,974 --> 00:27:16,394
where I don't need legislation.

461
00:27:17,234 --> 00:27:19,294
I'm really literally moving money around.

462
00:27:19,934 --> 00:27:20,794
I'm doing these contracts.

463
00:27:20,934 --> 00:27:22,334
I'm talking about permitting speeds.

464
00:27:22,414 --> 00:27:25,754
I'm talking about working with local politicians.

465
00:27:25,754 --> 00:27:31,934
There's nothing stopping from state and federal politicians

466
00:27:31,934 --> 00:27:35,734
coming together on the same plan for the district.

467
00:27:36,454 --> 00:27:37,654
And who has what tasks?

468
00:27:37,794 --> 00:27:40,294
Because I talked to some of these guys.

469
00:27:40,434 --> 00:27:43,234
I'm like, if everybody's told to feed the dog,

470
00:27:43,334 --> 00:27:44,074
the dog's going to starve.

471
00:27:44,974 --> 00:27:46,034
We got to be on the same plan.

472
00:27:46,194 --> 00:27:54,354
We got to know whose task is what, because we all have the same goal, but certain responsibilities, certain places, but they all affect each other.

473
00:27:55,554 --> 00:28:03,034
So the cartels are a big issue that isn't dealt with enough or at least heavy handedly enough.

474
00:28:03,694 --> 00:28:06,134
But, you know, there's also the other problem we have at the borders.

475
00:28:06,134 --> 00:28:11,134
And that's why I'm like trying to find out where the balance is, you know, but you're explaining it.

476
00:28:11,134 --> 00:28:16,234
but between the wall and using actual like physical people to patrol and

477
00:28:16,234 --> 00:28:16,714
using drones,

478
00:28:16,814 --> 00:28:17,034
et cetera,

479
00:28:17,034 --> 00:28:17,954
because we're also,

480
00:28:17,954 --> 00:28:22,274
a lot of people aren't aware of that Southern border is we have a lot of

481
00:28:22,274 --> 00:28:23,194
terrorist encounters too,

482
00:28:23,474 --> 00:28:25,054
like actual known real terrorists.

483
00:28:25,494 --> 00:28:25,674
Yes.

484
00:28:25,894 --> 00:28:26,734
And I always say this,

485
00:28:26,754 --> 00:28:27,854
my wife says I'm a broken record,

486
00:28:27,934 --> 00:28:30,214
but I'm not going to stop talking about it because we,

487
00:28:30,474 --> 00:28:30,894
in May,

488
00:28:30,934 --> 00:28:32,234
we encountered enough terrorists,

489
00:28:32,474 --> 00:28:35,294
known terrorists come to the Southern border to put 15 terrorists in every

490
00:28:35,294 --> 00:28:36,874
state of the United States of America.

491
00:28:36,874 --> 00:28:39,274
That doesn't even count for the other borders we have,

492
00:28:39,374 --> 00:28:39,554
no,

493
00:28:39,634 --> 00:28:40,494
the Canadian border,

494
00:28:40,614 --> 00:28:40,954
et cetera.

495
00:28:41,134 --> 00:28:43,014
just the southern border.

496
00:28:43,514 --> 00:28:43,934
Okay?

497
00:28:43,974 --> 00:28:44,874
And doesn't count the gotaways.

498
00:28:45,334 --> 00:28:48,514
So border security is much bigger than just,

499
00:28:48,514 --> 00:28:52,154
I think, podium politics and talking points.

500
00:28:52,294 --> 00:28:52,854
It's not like,

501
00:28:53,454 --> 00:28:54,034
and unfortunately,

502
00:28:54,114 --> 00:28:55,354
I think that's what it's being treated as,

503
00:28:55,374 --> 00:28:56,194
just podium politics,

504
00:28:56,314 --> 00:28:58,034
just talking points and narratives

505
00:28:58,034 --> 00:28:59,654
that they're using to try to sway the people

506
00:28:59,654 --> 00:29:01,454
and get them to argue with each other

507
00:29:01,454 --> 00:29:01,974
and stay divided

508
00:29:01,974 --> 00:29:04,774
because they want to make it more about the immigrant

509
00:29:04,774 --> 00:29:05,874
and what they're going through

510
00:29:05,874 --> 00:29:07,834
and ignoring actual security

511
00:29:07,834 --> 00:29:08,934
for the United States of America.

512
00:29:09,074 --> 00:29:09,974
It's not hating people.

513
00:29:09,974 --> 00:29:12,034
It's trying to keep the bad people out.

514
00:29:12,374 --> 00:29:14,874
And that's the conversation people aren't having.

515
00:29:15,454 --> 00:29:18,434
So these are real threats, real threats that need to be addressed.

516
00:29:18,634 --> 00:29:24,414
And I would look forward to seeing you get elected in 2028 and addressing these things because it needs to happen.

517
00:29:25,154 --> 00:29:31,834
I also tell people I am 100% against illegal immigration, but I'm 100% for legal immigration.

518
00:29:32,374 --> 00:29:33,894
We need to vet better.

519
00:29:34,314 --> 00:29:35,754
There's nothing wrong with legal immigration.

520
00:29:35,954 --> 00:29:38,174
Shoot, my dad came from the Azores.

521
00:29:38,174 --> 00:29:42,034
You know, all of my dad's family side is all Azorian Portuguese.

522
00:29:42,934 --> 00:29:44,174
He came here when he was seven.

523
00:29:44,314 --> 00:29:46,274
It's like, I have no problem with it.

524
00:29:46,294 --> 00:29:48,894
I have close friends that are all, you know, from Mexico.

525
00:29:49,114 --> 00:29:51,674
One of the guys that actually worked with me, he's a young guy.

526
00:29:51,814 --> 00:29:52,934
He's got a computer science degree.

527
00:29:53,114 --> 00:29:54,354
He has a great freaking job.

528
00:29:54,454 --> 00:29:54,874
Smart as hell.

529
00:29:55,374 --> 00:29:59,014
He himself was brought here to, I'm not going to tell you his name, but basically to get

530
00:29:59,014 --> 00:30:02,874
away from those elements we were talking about because of, you know, whatever.

531
00:30:03,094 --> 00:30:04,194
But anyway, he's here.

532
00:30:04,274 --> 00:30:04,794
He's doing well.

533
00:30:05,114 --> 00:30:07,114
He's just got a citizenship not long ago.

534
00:30:07,114 --> 00:30:09,814
He brought his wife over just like literally a few weeks ago.

535
00:30:10,254 --> 00:30:10,874
So like,

536
00:30:10,934 --> 00:30:12,854
I have no problem with people that are going to contribute,

537
00:30:13,054 --> 00:30:13,794
love the country.

538
00:30:14,034 --> 00:30:15,494
And none of us have a problem with that.

539
00:30:15,534 --> 00:30:15,934
Why would we?

540
00:30:16,294 --> 00:30:17,674
It makes no sense to have a problem with that.

541
00:30:18,054 --> 00:30:19,574
But people who take advantage,

542
00:30:19,714 --> 00:30:20,054
that's,

543
00:30:20,054 --> 00:30:21,654
that's something like I would expect it for me too,

544
00:30:21,694 --> 00:30:21,834
Keith.

545
00:30:21,874 --> 00:30:23,214
If I was going to go to another country,

546
00:30:23,214 --> 00:30:27,694
I'm moving because I have an intent to start my life over somewhere else.

547
00:30:28,014 --> 00:30:30,414
And there's something about that culture that just attracts me.

548
00:30:30,494 --> 00:30:30,754
I'm like,

549
00:30:30,834 --> 00:30:33,254
I'm going to move to Italy or Ireland or whatever it is.

550
00:30:33,274 --> 00:30:33,634
It doesn't matter,

551
00:30:33,974 --> 00:30:36,894
but you're going to integrate where I would expect the same for me.

552
00:30:36,894 --> 00:30:38,774
that I would expect from someone who wants to come to the US.

553
00:30:39,154 --> 00:30:41,174
And that's been my perspective moving forward.

554
00:30:41,234 --> 00:30:41,614
You're damn right.

555
00:30:41,674 --> 00:30:43,534
You're moving there because of that culture.

556
00:30:43,774 --> 00:30:46,554
So why would you not want to embrace that culture?

557
00:30:47,074 --> 00:30:49,974
You know, Arnold Schwarzenegger was awesome when he talked to...

558
00:30:49,974 --> 00:30:52,534
Did you hear him on The View talking about that?

559
00:30:52,654 --> 00:30:53,514
I did not.

560
00:30:53,634 --> 00:30:55,494
Well, let's go look that up

561
00:30:55,494 --> 00:30:59,154
because he puts those ladies in their place exactly like that.

562
00:30:59,594 --> 00:31:03,694
Anyone with a hamster, one hamster and one band on the wheel

563
00:31:03,694 --> 00:31:06,174
and the brain could literally put those ladies in their place.

564
00:31:06,174 --> 00:31:07,114
Some of them were being honest.

565
00:31:07,574 --> 00:31:08,114
We are.

566
00:31:08,374 --> 00:31:10,934
I just, I was thoroughly impressed.

567
00:31:11,114 --> 00:31:12,234
No, I'll definitely look that up, man.

568
00:31:12,294 --> 00:31:13,774
Schwarzenegger doesn't hold back when he talks.

569
00:31:14,114 --> 00:31:14,334
No.

570
00:31:15,114 --> 00:31:16,454
If you can understand him.

571
00:31:17,374 --> 00:31:18,234
Hey, let me ask this, Keith.

572
00:31:18,234 --> 00:31:22,274
So with Texas being primarily still Republican or conservative,

573
00:31:22,734 --> 00:31:27,594
with the influx of companies and tech bros and all that moving into Austin,

574
00:31:27,674 --> 00:31:31,074
are you afraid that it'll eventually bleed out and become another California?

575
00:31:31,834 --> 00:31:36,994
Well, Texas cities are already very much blue, especially San Antonio and Austin.

576
00:31:37,574 --> 00:31:40,674
You'll see up in Fort Worth, Dallas, it's a little bit more mixed.

577
00:31:41,374 --> 00:31:44,134
But that's what happens when you got twin cities.

578
00:31:45,054 --> 00:31:46,574
So it's already there.

579
00:31:47,654 --> 00:31:49,034
Yes, we're going to see that.

580
00:31:49,214 --> 00:31:54,514
But if we can fill those jobs with conservatives, does it really matter?

581
00:31:54,894 --> 00:31:57,034
And so I like what the jobs that are bringing.

582
00:31:57,034 --> 00:32:03,234
And let's face it, we're not seeing a lot of crazy left companies coming.

583
00:32:03,374 --> 00:32:05,514
We're seeing normal financial companies.

584
00:32:05,734 --> 00:32:07,054
Look at J.P. Morgan, right?

585
00:32:07,494 --> 00:32:08,414
That's all they're coming here for.

586
00:32:08,654 --> 00:32:12,314
So they now have more people employed in Texas than they do in New York.

587
00:32:12,834 --> 00:32:14,054
So I'm okay with it.

588
00:32:14,674 --> 00:32:23,634
I think what we need is if we can do some more common sense in the political market,

589
00:32:23,634 --> 00:32:27,874
the extreme left and the extreme right will come back towards center.

590
00:32:29,474 --> 00:32:34,074
The country always goes more extreme when people aren't happy.

591
00:32:35,534 --> 00:32:39,614
And the way we're doing things is just, frankly, it's stupid.

592
00:32:40,334 --> 00:32:41,494
If we can bring us back to...

593
00:32:42,714 --> 00:32:49,414
I like to say, I think for the most part, both sides want the same things.

594
00:32:50,274 --> 00:32:52,814
We just have different ways of going about getting it.

595
00:32:53,634 --> 00:33:05,434
When it comes to our basic needs. And so we need to have that process down better where everybody can kind of understand and life starts getting better.

596
00:33:05,434 --> 00:33:13,254
yeah i think there i think the approach is um literally talking about things that affect people

597
00:33:13,254 --> 00:33:21,674
in everyday life not not pushing the um i hate trump policy that most people on the left have

598
00:33:21,674 --> 00:33:27,494
because that's not a policy that that's it doesn't help anybody on the right or left it doesn't matter

599
00:33:27,494 --> 00:33:32,854
um and i've i've said this before i think i think between democrats and i'm and listen i'm an

600
00:33:32,854 --> 00:33:34,034
I used to be a Democrat.

601
00:33:34,094 --> 00:33:35,074
I was an old school Democrat.

602
00:33:35,194 --> 00:33:40,914
And I miss the old school Democrats because I think that for the most part, as people, we agree on 80%.

603
00:33:40,914 --> 00:33:42,194
Maybe 20% would disagree.

604
00:33:42,514 --> 00:33:46,814
I might even venture into saying maybe we only disagree on 10%.

605
00:33:46,814 --> 00:33:59,134
So if between 80% and 90%, we're all humans going through the same bullshit, how is it that we can't come together and just elect people based on their merit and what they exactly want to do for the American people as an elected official?

606
00:33:59,134 --> 00:34:06,374
I don't understand why it has to become my team versus your team, party politic BS, because it's just, it's not benefiting anybody.

607
00:34:06,714 --> 00:34:07,554
It's not benefiting anybody.

608
00:34:09,334 --> 00:34:11,994
A lot of politicians go because they want to be famous.

609
00:34:12,734 --> 00:34:13,674
That's also a problem.

610
00:34:14,114 --> 00:34:19,434
Well, blame podcasting and everything else because that's what really puts all this shit.

611
00:34:20,174 --> 00:34:21,014
Jeez, man.

612
00:34:22,354 --> 00:34:28,834
Once that pandemic came and COVID and everybody was suddenly a podcaster out of the garage, you saw even, and that was crazy for me.

613
00:34:28,834 --> 00:34:30,634
seeing politicians with their own shows like Ted Cruz,

614
00:34:30,714 --> 00:34:30,914
et cetera.

615
00:34:30,954 --> 00:34:31,134
I'm like,

616
00:34:31,214 --> 00:34:31,394
what,

617
00:34:32,614 --> 00:34:34,034
don't you have a job to do?

618
00:34:34,594 --> 00:34:34,954
Yes.

619
00:34:35,134 --> 00:34:35,954
It's crazy.

620
00:34:36,674 --> 00:34:37,034
Well,

621
00:34:37,154 --> 00:34:40,694
but I think part of it from the political aspect is actually why I'm doing

622
00:34:40,694 --> 00:34:41,054
it too,

623
00:34:41,054 --> 00:34:43,654
is the media is a bunch of gatekeepers.

624
00:34:44,314 --> 00:34:44,674
No,

625
00:34:44,874 --> 00:34:45,974
let me stop there.

626
00:34:46,034 --> 00:34:47,054
I want to hear each other say,

627
00:34:47,134 --> 00:34:49,074
but what I meant by that Keith is you're,

628
00:34:49,114 --> 00:34:49,694
you're a guest,

629
00:34:49,694 --> 00:34:52,234
like being a guest and using a platform to spread your message.

630
00:34:52,314 --> 00:34:54,254
One thing I'm talking about people have their own show.

631
00:34:54,394 --> 00:34:54,794
Oh yeah.

632
00:34:54,794 --> 00:34:55,074
I know.

633
00:34:55,074 --> 00:34:55,594
I was like,

634
00:34:55,594 --> 00:34:56,654
I get it.

635
00:34:56,714 --> 00:34:58,434
If you're no longer a representative,

636
00:34:58,434 --> 00:35:00,974
because I know how much time it takes me to do all this.

637
00:35:01,334 --> 00:35:03,794
But if you're not a representative, great.

638
00:35:04,374 --> 00:35:05,094
Power to you.

639
00:35:05,194 --> 00:35:07,814
But if you're a representative of the United States of America

640
00:35:07,814 --> 00:35:10,214
to some capacity, your job should be full.

641
00:35:10,294 --> 00:35:11,014
Your place should be full.

642
00:35:11,374 --> 00:35:13,454
I don't see a reason for you to also be

643
00:35:13,454 --> 00:35:15,054
some kind of a media personality.

644
00:35:15,834 --> 00:35:18,394
You should be using the media to get your message across

645
00:35:18,394 --> 00:35:22,334
and try to reach those who you want to represent.

646
00:35:22,594 --> 00:35:23,354
Totally makes sense.

647
00:35:23,474 --> 00:35:24,874
I mean, if there wasn't podcasting,

648
00:35:24,914 --> 00:35:26,314
you'd be on some other show in the news or something.

649
00:35:26,414 --> 00:35:27,974
I mean, that's just what it is.

650
00:35:27,974 --> 00:35:31,474
you have to use whatever's available to you to get your message out.

651
00:35:31,594 --> 00:35:33,214
So that's where I was coming from.

652
00:35:33,334 --> 00:35:35,014
I was talking about those people who are like,

653
00:35:35,074 --> 00:35:36,654
I'm a podcaster and I'm a media guy.

654
00:35:37,534 --> 00:35:39,094
I completely agree with you.

655
00:35:39,094 --> 00:35:44,934
I was just saying that the gatekeeping has gotten even more unreal

656
00:35:44,934 --> 00:35:46,574
in the last five years.

657
00:35:46,854 --> 00:35:50,434
And so unless you got Brandon Herrera,

658
00:35:50,574 --> 00:35:53,154
4.7 million YouTube followers,

659
00:35:54,954 --> 00:35:57,374
yeah, it's kind of hard to kind of break out.

660
00:35:57,374 --> 00:35:58,474
So it is.

661
00:35:58,794 --> 00:35:59,194
Yeah.

662
00:36:00,334 --> 00:36:02,554
It's hard for everybody on all sides, believe me.

663
00:36:02,574 --> 00:36:02,774
Yeah.

664
00:36:03,534 --> 00:36:07,414
But I mean, it starts here, regardless of how big the show is or whatever.

665
00:36:07,414 --> 00:36:08,094
It starts here.

666
00:36:08,154 --> 00:36:09,274
It starts with these conversations.

667
00:36:09,574 --> 00:36:11,954
And all it takes is that one person to listen.

668
00:36:12,294 --> 00:36:13,954
That message clicks in their mind.

669
00:36:14,014 --> 00:36:15,054
They share it with a friend.

670
00:36:15,154 --> 00:36:16,694
I mean, this is all about organic growth.

671
00:36:16,794 --> 00:36:17,914
This is what this is.

672
00:36:17,914 --> 00:36:18,394
It's just spreading.

673
00:36:18,514 --> 00:36:19,434
This is grassroots, man.

674
00:36:19,834 --> 00:36:21,394
It's not going to get any more grassroots than this.

675
00:36:21,774 --> 00:36:26,154
If you don't have the big budget and the $50 million a month advertising,

676
00:36:26,154 --> 00:36:28,694
coffers, whatever.

677
00:36:29,374 --> 00:36:31,334
You have to get out there by any means

678
00:36:31,334 --> 00:36:32,094
and that's what you're doing.

679
00:36:33,134 --> 00:36:35,294
Look, don't feel bad for any

680
00:36:35,294 --> 00:36:36,954
of this shit. Oh, no. I love it.

681
00:36:37,254 --> 00:36:37,614
Absolutely.

682
00:36:38,414 --> 00:36:41,294
Yeah, I absolutely love it though too because we get to have a regular

683
00:36:41,294 --> 00:36:43,374
conversation. When I get interviewed

684
00:36:43,374 --> 00:36:45,334
by the news, it's like...

685
00:36:45,334 --> 00:36:47,194
Oh, I bet. I was going to ask you,

686
00:36:47,374 --> 00:36:49,354
how are you able to even get your

687
00:36:49,354 --> 00:36:51,394
point across when they give you literally, here's 15

688
00:36:51,394 --> 00:36:53,114
minutes, here's the talking points and go?

689
00:36:54,034 --> 00:36:55,294
Yeah, and it gets down

690
00:36:55,294 --> 00:36:58,414
to 30 to 45 seconds most of the time.

691
00:36:58,474 --> 00:36:58,934
Right?

692
00:36:59,054 --> 00:37:01,194
Or they just, hey, we interviewed him

693
00:37:01,194 --> 00:37:04,094
and here's a paragraph of notes from the interview.

694
00:37:04,274 --> 00:37:06,694
And it doesn't, especially with what I run on

695
00:37:06,694 --> 00:37:09,074
because it's not everyday language.

696
00:37:09,554 --> 00:37:11,674
It's operational things

697
00:37:11,674 --> 00:37:13,914
and it's hard for people to understand sometimes.

698
00:37:14,154 --> 00:37:16,474
Sometimes you gotta be able to explain it

699
00:37:16,474 --> 00:37:20,474
because I'm not just, I'm for gun rights, vote for me.

700
00:37:20,754 --> 00:37:21,794
Or I'm for people.

701
00:37:22,074 --> 00:37:24,074
No, dude, that doesn't tell me anything.

702
00:37:24,074 --> 00:37:31,374
you know or these other yeah and i i think that that's that's um i think that's something that

703
00:37:31,374 --> 00:37:39,214
most americans need to start realizing that the uh 42nd you know um the the 42nd talking points

704
00:37:39,214 --> 00:37:44,554
that are curated and taken out of a three-hour conversation for example should not be the way

705
00:37:44,554 --> 00:37:49,214
that you judge your candidate i mean there's so much more nuance like america is not a talking

706
00:37:49,214 --> 00:37:56,834
point. It's not a soundbiter or a video clip. There's so much more to it. And we all have these

707
00:37:56,834 --> 00:38:03,254
supercomputers. So if you hear something that you like, look the candidate up because I guarantee

708
00:38:03,254 --> 00:38:09,814
you there's plenty on him or her. And then you can read it and see if they actually, instead of,

709
00:38:10,334 --> 00:38:13,954
well, if this bill comes up, I'm not going to vote for it. That doesn't tell me anything, man.

710
00:38:13,954 --> 00:38:20,834
right what are you gonna do so what so speaking of that um what else in your district needs to

711
00:38:20,834 --> 00:38:25,594
be addressed what else in your district outside we already talked about border security which

712
00:38:25,594 --> 00:38:31,634
absolutely is a thing um i know you want to reform congress but your district itself what

713
00:38:31,634 --> 00:38:37,014
in your district do you do you see needs to be addressed for your constituents so i have a fully

714
00:38:37,014 --> 00:38:43,554
integrated 24 point plan um and it all i'm i'm treating it like i like to tell the voters i don't

715
00:38:43,554 --> 00:38:48,814
want to represent you. I want to be your chief operating officer. I'm going to come in here and

716
00:38:48,814 --> 00:38:54,494
I'm going to change some things. One of the big things that I need to go after is water. So I love

717
00:38:54,494 --> 00:39:05,711
talking about this because Tony spent billions to shove more water into our system So West Texas doesn have a water shortage problem People look at me like I have something growing out of my forehead

718
00:39:06,391 --> 00:39:07,791
It has a water leakage problem.

719
00:39:09,171 --> 00:39:12,251
It's the highest in the nation at 30%.

720
00:39:12,251 --> 00:39:13,171
Can you explain that?

721
00:39:13,831 --> 00:39:16,071
Yeah, we got old broken pipes all over the place.

722
00:39:16,191 --> 00:39:20,471
And anywhere where the ground is not flat and it changes in elevation, those pipes have started.

723
00:39:20,471 --> 00:39:22,491
Got it. So it's an infrastructure problem.

724
00:39:23,031 --> 00:39:23,471
Correct.

725
00:39:23,931 --> 00:39:26,071
So why aren't we fixing the major leaks?

726
00:39:26,871 --> 00:39:28,411
And that's what you always do in logistics.

727
00:39:28,951 --> 00:39:29,911
Why are we going to shove?

728
00:39:29,991 --> 00:39:31,331
You don't shove more water into it.

729
00:39:31,371 --> 00:39:32,591
You don't shove more money into it.

730
00:39:32,651 --> 00:39:34,251
You go fix this current system.

731
00:39:34,591 --> 00:39:38,171
Because West Texas isn't exactly heavily populated.

732
00:39:39,651 --> 00:39:43,711
So we need to fix that first before we go looking for more water.

733
00:39:43,851 --> 00:39:45,531
And that's number one.

734
00:39:45,531 --> 00:39:48,351
I already talked about increasing the throughput through the border.

735
00:39:48,491 --> 00:39:49,531
That kind of gets everything going.

736
00:39:50,131 --> 00:39:52,991
I'm a big proponent of the Port to Plains project.

737
00:39:53,471 --> 00:40:14,691
So if I can actually unlock the natural gas, well, we're not going to have pipelines for a long time to move that natural gas. So we're going to need that highway infrastructure to move it. Because let's face it, the north is screaming for more natural gas. But right now we're just burning it off because of permitting speeds and red tape. It's stupid.

738
00:40:14,691 --> 00:40:23,311
And that would start that energy explosion, right? Because that's so simple to do to start

739
00:40:23,311 --> 00:40:28,431
bringing all this in. And then I also tell people when you do that, when you enable these private

740
00:40:28,431 --> 00:40:33,951
companies to make more money, well, guess what? They're going to pay for those specialized training.

741
00:40:34,211 --> 00:40:40,491
They need the people, right? So we're going to get all these high paying blue collar jobs

742
00:40:40,491 --> 00:40:47,771
paid for not by somebody from Austin or DC throwing millions at it. No, the companies are

743
00:40:47,771 --> 00:40:52,811
going to pay for it because they need it. So it's all a big logistics mindset. Another one for El

744
00:40:52,811 --> 00:41:03,691
Paso, they need another distribution center. They're at this very perfect logistics network

745
00:41:03,691 --> 00:41:09,851
comes from multiple places right there. And if I can help with that and get them another...

746
00:41:09,851 --> 00:41:14,991
And I foresee, being a logistics guy, I actually foresee a Walmart grocery coming in.

747
00:41:16,831 --> 00:41:17,731
Distribution center.

748
00:41:17,931 --> 00:41:24,511
And if you know anything about Walmart grocery, the guys who just pick cases will make $130 a year.

749
00:41:25,951 --> 00:41:26,471
Unreal.

750
00:41:27,071 --> 00:41:31,431
So a kid out of high school can be going in there as long as he works hard because he gets paid by the case.

751
00:41:32,271 --> 00:41:33,111
That's crazy.

752
00:41:33,711 --> 00:41:33,931
Right?

753
00:41:34,211 --> 00:41:34,571
Exactly.

754
00:41:34,571 --> 00:41:35,371
Can you imagine?

755
00:41:35,591 --> 00:41:39,451
And then, so that DC might only employ 900 people.

756
00:41:39,851 --> 00:41:43,991
but it creates 6,000 jobs and economic around it.

757
00:41:43,991 --> 00:41:45,111
So are jobs,

758
00:41:45,211 --> 00:41:48,211
are jobs a real issue out there in West Texas?

759
00:41:48,651 --> 00:41:48,951
Yeah.

760
00:41:48,971 --> 00:41:49,931
Especially in El Paso,

761
00:41:49,971 --> 00:41:54,111
people are moving out of El Paso because of the conditions.

762
00:41:54,331 --> 00:41:55,111
And so,

763
00:41:55,291 --> 00:41:56,031
and let's face it,

764
00:41:56,031 --> 00:41:58,051
it's been being Democrat ran forever.

765
00:41:58,711 --> 00:41:59,791
Nobody thinks of like this.

766
00:41:59,791 --> 00:42:01,611
So we need to,

767
00:42:01,991 --> 00:42:02,551
and I mean,

768
00:42:02,751 --> 00:42:04,051
Amazon's already there.

769
00:42:04,231 --> 00:42:06,211
I want to help get them H-E-B.

770
00:42:06,431 --> 00:42:08,491
So I don't know if you know about H-E-B here in Texas,

771
00:42:08,651 --> 00:42:09,511
but that's like,

772
00:42:09,851 --> 00:42:11,811
it's a grocery chain,

773
00:42:12,011 --> 00:42:12,811
but it's like,

774
00:42:12,871 --> 00:42:13,111
you know,

775
00:42:13,131 --> 00:42:13,911
when I first moved here,

776
00:42:13,931 --> 00:42:15,891
I called it Heb and my wife was like,

777
00:42:16,211 --> 00:42:16,591
it's H-E-B,

778
00:42:16,731 --> 00:42:17,271
don't do that.

779
00:42:18,951 --> 00:42:21,671
But they only go out to the Permian Basin.

780
00:42:21,931 --> 00:42:22,831
And it's like,

781
00:42:22,931 --> 00:42:23,171
I mean,

782
00:42:23,331 --> 00:42:25,111
it's H-E-B is Texas.

783
00:42:25,451 --> 00:42:27,371
It's like Bucky's is Texas.

784
00:42:27,531 --> 00:42:28,051
I get you.

785
00:42:28,431 --> 00:42:28,651
Yeah.

786
00:42:28,971 --> 00:42:29,831
It's that kind of,

787
00:42:30,071 --> 00:42:30,311
yeah.

788
00:42:30,811 --> 00:42:34,151
But they can't get out to El Paso because they don't have a distribution network.

789
00:42:34,151 --> 00:42:34,851
But guess what?

790
00:42:35,071 --> 00:42:38,651
There are third party logistics carriers and warehouses already.

791
00:42:38,771 --> 00:42:39,671
They can get them started.

792
00:42:39,851 --> 00:42:44,611
So the low-hanging fruit is getting these companies, getting them help.

793
00:42:45,031 --> 00:42:55,291
Basically, it sounds like what you want to do is fix the infrastructure that's currently in place and dilapidated so that you can get these distribution centers that will actually bring jobs, like actual real jobs.

794
00:42:55,791 --> 00:42:56,211
Real jobs.

795
00:42:56,531 --> 00:43:01,031
Are you also advocating for maybe any tech jobs in El Paso?

796
00:43:01,191 --> 00:43:04,151
Or is that a little bit too hard trying to compete with like Austin and whatnot?

797
00:43:04,151 --> 00:43:14,711
Yeah, so I mean, the closest tech jobs we're going to get are really going to be either energy or it's going to be AI. And again, I don't want AI distribution centers in West Texas.

798
00:43:14,711 --> 00:43:16,651
And that's because of resources, you said.

799
00:43:16,711 --> 00:43:18,311
Yeah, because of water and electricity.

800
00:43:18,831 --> 00:43:19,271
Right.

801
00:43:19,331 --> 00:43:31,871
And they promise to create a bunch of jobs, but most of the time they actually bring in workers that have already worked on these before from other states, and then they don't have a large workforce to keep them going.

802
00:43:31,871 --> 00:43:32,871
There's no...

803
00:43:32,871 --> 00:43:33,651
Right?

804
00:43:34,131 --> 00:43:35,711
So they don't actually create a lot.

805
00:43:36,371 --> 00:43:42,671
They do that or they literally fire them and bring in H1B candidates just like Microsoft did this year.

806
00:43:42,751 --> 00:43:43,071
You're saying it.

807
00:43:43,791 --> 00:43:44,651
It is.

808
00:43:46,191 --> 00:43:47,871
Anyone could...

809
00:43:47,871 --> 00:43:50,471
Which is ridiculous.

810
00:43:51,371 --> 00:43:57,831
But getting back to the data centers, I mean, if it could provide jobs locally for people, and it will provide some.

811
00:43:57,831 --> 00:44:07,791
I think it goes back to what you said, like using these small nuclear substations or plants would definitely help alleviate the tax on the electrical grid.

812
00:44:08,531 --> 00:44:19,271
And when it comes to the water, I'm sure there's other cooling systems they could use or closed loop cooling systems that can cool everything down that doesn't really need water, possibly trucking in water, desalination plants, whatever.

813
00:44:19,471 --> 00:44:21,291
I mean, there's a bunch of other ways to go about it.

814
00:44:21,291 --> 00:44:22,931
but I mean,

815
00:44:22,971 --> 00:44:23,171
I,

816
00:44:23,191 --> 00:44:24,051
I heard that Microsoft,

817
00:44:24,291 --> 00:44:25,551
I forgot where in Texas they're building,

818
00:44:25,631 --> 00:44:29,511
but I think they signed like a 50 year agreement with Chevron for,

819
00:44:29,511 --> 00:44:29,851
for,

820
00:44:29,851 --> 00:44:31,291
for natural gas and other resources,

821
00:44:31,291 --> 00:44:35,611
just so they can get their own energy direct from the supplier to help

822
00:44:35,611 --> 00:44:38,911
alleviate taxing the resources of everyone else living around it.

823
00:44:39,491 --> 00:44:40,731
But yeah,

824
00:44:40,811 --> 00:44:41,231
look,

825
00:44:41,311 --> 00:44:42,091
data centers are a thing,

826
00:44:42,131 --> 00:44:43,151
either love them or you hate them.

827
00:44:44,511 --> 00:44:45,071
You know,

828
00:44:45,071 --> 00:44:46,971
and everybody's situation,

829
00:44:46,971 --> 00:44:48,331
like where you are in West Texas,

830
00:44:48,431 --> 00:44:48,771
I get it.

831
00:44:48,851 --> 00:44:50,331
Everything's different depending on resources,

832
00:44:50,471 --> 00:44:50,911
infrastructure.

833
00:44:50,911 --> 00:44:52,531
It's not like you could just drop one in.

834
00:44:53,331 --> 00:44:58,091
But even with that, dude, I'd hate to see the urbanization of the U.S.

835
00:44:58,311 --> 00:45:04,411
I don't want to be seeing towns built around data centers rather than data centers built for our benefit.

836
00:45:04,571 --> 00:45:04,951
You know what I'm saying?

837
00:45:05,131 --> 00:45:05,231
Right.

838
00:45:05,891 --> 00:45:07,791
I still want trees and grass and whatnot.

839
00:45:08,411 --> 00:45:10,171
Well, even think about those SMRs.

840
00:45:10,611 --> 00:45:12,431
Think about the jobs those would create.

841
00:45:12,671 --> 00:45:13,211
Yes, they would.

842
00:45:13,771 --> 00:45:14,211
Crazy.

843
00:45:14,571 --> 00:45:15,611
And high paying again.

844
00:45:15,631 --> 00:45:16,451
Tech jobs right there.

845
00:45:16,631 --> 00:45:17,451
Blue collar tech jobs.

846
00:45:17,731 --> 00:45:17,971
Exactly.

847
00:45:17,971 --> 00:45:21,711
Yeah, that would be awesome.

848
00:45:22,231 --> 00:45:23,211
So you have a plan.

849
00:45:23,711 --> 00:45:29,631
You're running in 2028 because Brandon Herrera, who knows, if he gets reelected.

850
00:45:29,811 --> 00:45:31,871
And even if he wins the general election, we're not even there yet.

851
00:45:31,931 --> 00:45:34,051
But still, regardless, you're going to run again.

852
00:45:34,291 --> 00:45:44,611
So let's move on from your aspirations, your congressional aspirations, because I wanted to talk about your family law advocacy.

853
00:45:44,611 --> 00:45:50,651
Like basically you want to revamp the structure of the family courts or how it's being handled.

854
00:45:50,771 --> 00:45:51,311
What led you there?

855
00:45:51,391 --> 00:45:52,151
What was that journey?

856
00:45:52,451 --> 00:45:53,931
And why did you become an advocate?

857
00:45:54,671 --> 00:46:00,091
So I've spent six years so far in the family court system fighting for my kids.

858
00:46:00,411 --> 00:46:02,811
And it is unbelievably biased.

859
00:46:03,391 --> 00:46:04,331
It is unreal.

860
00:46:04,691 --> 00:46:07,951
And once I did the root cause analysis, it comes down to money.

861
00:46:07,951 --> 00:46:31,911
So every state has gender neutral laws and they have shared custody laws, but they don't follow them. And that's because of Title IV defunding. So every time for the federal government to really work on this, they have to figure out how to do it without affecting the 10th Amendment. And that's what makes it so hard.

862
00:46:32,471 --> 00:46:36,371
So most of the time from the federal seat, it's lawyers that are trying to do it.

863
00:46:36,531 --> 00:46:38,751
And frankly, they always just want to change state law.

864
00:46:39,611 --> 00:46:40,571
Well, you can't do that.

865
00:46:40,811 --> 00:46:42,331
That's 10th Amendment non-compliant.

866
00:46:43,371 --> 00:46:45,011
So I wrote a five-page bill.

867
00:46:46,591 --> 00:46:52,751
And because I, and frankly, I guess we'll go a little bit back, fighting the family court system, paying lawyers over half a million dollars.

868
00:46:53,071 --> 00:46:55,931
I finally started winning when I started representing myself.

869
00:46:56,871 --> 00:46:57,311
Interesting.

870
00:46:57,931 --> 00:46:58,171
Yeah.

871
00:46:58,531 --> 00:46:59,871
Once I learned, right?

872
00:46:59,911 --> 00:47:01,051
Because I could file more.

873
00:47:01,051 --> 00:47:06,051
I could say the things that needed to actually be said and not picking and choosing.

874
00:47:06,511 --> 00:47:09,871
And so, and I even just won an appeal in Florida.

875
00:47:10,871 --> 00:47:16,231
And it was so, frankly, the DCA was so harsh on the judge.

876
00:47:16,411 --> 00:47:23,151
There's, it's already on seven different legal sites with professional lawyers quoting it.

877
00:47:23,551 --> 00:47:25,471
That's how bad it was for them.

878
00:47:25,471 --> 00:47:32,551
And so, yeah, so I thought through the process of how to do it.

879
00:47:32,651 --> 00:47:42,731
So what I want to do is get, so what happens with Title IV defunding is the amount of child support that a state collects, the federal government matches at 66%.

880
00:47:42,731 --> 00:47:44,611
Huh.

881
00:47:44,611 --> 00:47:59,071
So it incentivizes judges to break up families and maximize time sharing for one parent over another because the state gets more money in opposition to their laws.

882
00:47:59,551 --> 00:48:02,211
And lawyers will come back and say, well, it's best for the child.

883
00:48:03,271 --> 00:48:04,051
I'm a data guy.

884
00:48:04,391 --> 00:48:08,731
If the whole country is at 90-10 split, you aren't following that.

885
00:48:09,191 --> 00:48:11,651
It's physically impossible.

886
00:48:12,331 --> 00:48:14,751
And then when you look at all the science, there's no difference.

887
00:48:14,871 --> 00:48:19,831
In fact, there's several key areas where fathers as a single parent are actually better than

888
00:48:19,831 --> 00:48:20,191
mothers.

889
00:48:20,891 --> 00:48:24,431
For instance, mothers abuse their children at a higher rate.

890
00:48:25,091 --> 00:48:30,431
Children that are raised solely by their father have a higher income level and higher education

891
00:48:30,431 --> 00:48:30,751
level.

892
00:48:31,051 --> 00:48:34,551
So there's several things that actually benefits the other direction.

893
00:48:34,971 --> 00:48:38,351
But I'm not going into this with like, it's anti-mom, pro-father.

894
00:48:38,551 --> 00:48:40,691
I'm going into it with pro-child.

895
00:48:41,651 --> 00:48:44,291
The whole focus is not the parents.

896
00:48:44,791 --> 00:48:46,791
For the parents, it's stop freaking fighting.

897
00:48:46,951 --> 00:48:47,731
We're going to come together.

898
00:48:47,871 --> 00:48:48,911
We're going to share our children.

899
00:48:49,251 --> 00:48:50,271
And we're going to focus on the child.

900
00:48:50,711 --> 00:49:00,611
So what I did was repealing Title IV defunding and using those same exact funds to literally reward the states for following their own laws that they have on their books already.

901
00:49:02,271 --> 00:49:04,291
That's the basic premise of it.

902
00:49:04,291 --> 00:49:08,651
you culture you to get to gender neutral rulings as a state average and

903
00:49:08,651 --> 00:49:10,991
shared custody as a state average,

904
00:49:11,031 --> 00:49:12,051
the more money you get.

905
00:49:13,371 --> 00:49:14,151
So we're not,

906
00:49:14,271 --> 00:49:15,591
I get you.

907
00:49:15,651 --> 00:49:17,991
You don't want to make it a mother versus father issue.

908
00:49:20,171 --> 00:49:21,011
But you know,

909
00:49:21,011 --> 00:49:22,491
there is bias as I mean,

910
00:49:22,491 --> 00:49:26,611
you alluded to earlier before you gave that explanation of why you got into

911
00:49:26,611 --> 00:49:27,011
doing this,

912
00:49:27,011 --> 00:49:31,151
but it does seem it is tilted always more towards the mother.

913
00:49:32,051 --> 00:49:36,611
And I don't know if it's a societal thing or if it's just exactly what you said.

914
00:49:36,651 --> 00:49:40,371
They're looking at the child support and what the government will match to the state.

915
00:49:40,551 --> 00:49:45,571
And they're like, well, we'll hit the father because statistically they make more money usually.

916
00:49:45,871 --> 00:49:48,431
And they think that the dad could take the hit.

917
00:49:49,251 --> 00:49:52,791
And always seems to go in favor of the mother in most cases.

918
00:49:52,791 --> 00:49:54,511
Not all, but in most cases.

919
00:49:54,791 --> 00:49:54,891
Yeah.

920
00:49:54,971 --> 00:49:56,111
And it's all those things.

921
00:49:57,051 --> 00:49:58,291
It's not a single one.

922
00:49:58,371 --> 00:49:59,151
It's all those things.

923
00:49:59,231 --> 00:50:00,051
They all add up.

924
00:50:00,051 --> 00:50:04,191
but the states have already recognized that that's not the right way because

925
00:50:04,191 --> 00:50:06,791
they've already written their laws in opposition to that.

926
00:50:07,051 --> 00:50:09,851
They're just not following them per the data.

927
00:50:10,091 --> 00:50:10,751
They're not following them.

928
00:50:11,311 --> 00:50:11,491
Right.

929
00:50:11,751 --> 00:50:12,491
That's crazy.

930
00:50:12,991 --> 00:50:16,171
So how easy is it?

931
00:50:16,251 --> 00:50:16,371
Well,

932
00:50:16,371 --> 00:50:17,071
it's not going to be easy.

933
00:50:17,071 --> 00:50:17,471
I mean,

934
00:50:17,551 --> 00:50:23,731
so what are the steps you're going to take to try to get that repealed or

935
00:50:23,731 --> 00:50:24,711
get changed?

936
00:50:25,151 --> 00:50:27,391
It's the country is actually right.

937
00:50:27,391 --> 00:50:32,511
I'm getting into this at the right time because there are lots of states that are already going

938
00:50:32,511 --> 00:50:38,851
down this road. And our proof of concept is actually Kentucky. In 2018, they said,

939
00:50:38,951 --> 00:50:44,491
we're going to bypass taking all the federal funds. We are going to go with a true 50-50.

940
00:50:44,951 --> 00:50:49,671
And they saw a 25% drop in divorce rate. Amazing.

941
00:50:50,951 --> 00:50:52,451
You take away the incentive, right?

942
00:50:52,451 --> 00:51:09,531
Exactly. So there's your proof of concept. And suddenly, so there's a guy here in Texas named Matt Garza. What he does is he fights by the states. He's helping legislators pass very short law change bills to help with this from that.

943
00:51:09,531 --> 00:51:13,751
but he's always going to struggle doing and he's changing laws all over the

944
00:51:13,751 --> 00:51:14,571
country doing this,

945
00:51:14,571 --> 00:51:17,771
but he's always going to struggle until that financial incentive is gone.

946
00:51:18,651 --> 00:51:19,751
And that's exactly.

947
00:51:20,291 --> 00:51:20,691
Yeah.

948
00:51:20,711 --> 00:51:21,331
Actually the lot,

949
00:51:21,391 --> 00:51:21,771
when I met,

950
00:51:22,011 --> 00:51:23,031
when I met the speaker,

951
00:51:23,031 --> 00:51:24,431
that was the last thing I said to him,

952
00:51:24,451 --> 00:51:24,731
like,

953
00:51:24,851 --> 00:51:25,011
sir,

954
00:51:25,011 --> 00:51:25,791
when we get there,

955
00:51:26,511 --> 00:51:26,791
I'm like,

956
00:51:26,851 --> 00:51:27,871
we're going to fix family court.

957
00:51:27,951 --> 00:51:29,411
He just snapped his fingers and he said,

958
00:51:29,471 --> 00:51:29,631
yes,

959
00:51:29,631 --> 00:51:30,011
we are.

960
00:51:30,551 --> 00:51:30,671
Yeah.

961
00:51:30,791 --> 00:51:31,071
Well,

962
00:51:31,131 --> 00:51:31,891
hold them to it.

963
00:51:31,991 --> 00:51:32,351
Yeah.

964
00:51:32,471 --> 00:51:33,391
When you get there,

965
00:51:33,411 --> 00:51:33,611
man,

966
00:51:33,971 --> 00:51:34,231
definitely.

967
00:51:34,951 --> 00:51:36,591
So now I'm going to blow your mind.

968
00:51:36,591 --> 00:51:40,171
So it's more than just that.

969
00:51:40,171 --> 00:51:46,831
So what this would actually do, and this is how you sell it and it becomes unattackable.

970
00:51:47,351 --> 00:51:52,011
When you have shared parenting like that, you see lower mental health issues in children.

971
00:51:52,331 --> 00:51:54,511
You see higher income levels their whole life.

972
00:51:54,611 --> 00:52:01,271
You see higher education levels, lower domestic violence, lower child abuse, lower divorce rates.

973
00:52:01,293 --> 00:52:04,493
lower reliance on SNAP, lower crime.

974
00:52:05,273 --> 00:52:07,293
And when you do the math every 10 years,

975
00:52:07,413 --> 00:52:09,193
it's a minimum savings for the country

976
00:52:09,193 --> 00:52:11,253
of $2 trillion every 10 years.

977
00:52:12,413 --> 00:52:15,093
That is really hard to say no to,

978
00:52:15,853 --> 00:52:19,233
especially when you're not affecting the state's laws.

979
00:52:19,333 --> 00:52:21,233
And if you're not even by doing it this way,

980
00:52:21,253 --> 00:52:22,773
you're not even going to affect their pocketbooks.

981
00:52:23,653 --> 00:52:26,933
There's literally nothing for them to argue about

982
00:52:26,933 --> 00:52:28,053
on the camera against it.

983
00:52:28,593 --> 00:52:30,533
No, I mean, from a policy and legal standpoint,

984
00:52:30,653 --> 00:52:31,133
it makes sense.

985
00:52:31,133 --> 00:52:37,453
But it's also going to be reprogramming the population to not try to take advantage of these things also.

986
00:52:37,633 --> 00:52:40,733
Because let's face it, I mean, you're not going to say it, but I will.

987
00:52:40,813 --> 00:52:49,433
There are some women who would definitely take advantage of these situations just to get paid for doing nothing and using the kid against the father as leverage.

988
00:52:50,113 --> 00:52:55,353
And that's something that needs to go away soon, like yesterday, honestly.

989
00:52:56,333 --> 00:52:59,393
So that needs to be addressed as well.

990
00:52:59,393 --> 00:53:04,153
So hopefully, like you said, it starts with the policies and the laws in place.

991
00:53:04,533 --> 00:53:05,493
Get that done.

992
00:53:05,813 --> 00:53:13,193
But also, we're going to need messaging to retrain the population to look at divorce differently and child custody differently.

993
00:53:13,433 --> 00:53:14,733
I mean, the child's not a tool.

994
00:53:14,933 --> 00:53:15,473
It's not a pawn.

995
00:53:15,993 --> 00:53:25,333
And unfortunately, we see that being used too often, using a child as literal leverage or a pawn in a fight between two adults, which is ridiculous.

996
00:53:25,613 --> 00:53:29,333
So your approach is child first, and that's what we're supposed to see.

997
00:53:29,393 --> 00:53:31,373
it. We don't see it. Even in school systems, it doesn't matter

998
00:53:31,373 --> 00:53:33,313
what it is. It's not really child

999
00:53:33,313 --> 00:53:35,413
first. It's more like, how are we going to use a child to get

1000
00:53:35,413 --> 00:53:37,373
to them? And that needs

1001
00:53:37,373 --> 00:53:39,293
a change. Right. But then

1002
00:53:39,293 --> 00:53:41,073
when the baseline is 50-50,

1003
00:53:41,313 --> 00:53:42,593
then you got to get away from that.

1004
00:53:42,993 --> 00:53:45,433
And I helped with that too, because

1005
00:53:45,433 --> 00:53:46,773
there's another provision in there.

1006
00:53:48,573 --> 00:53:49,033
If

1007
00:53:49,033 --> 00:53:51,413
the courts get

1008
00:53:51,413 --> 00:53:53,233
the parents to come to a

1009
00:53:53,233 --> 00:53:54,993
mutual agreement

1010
00:53:54,993 --> 00:53:57,133
that matches the state's laws

1011
00:53:57,133 --> 00:53:58,733
for the near 50-50,

1012
00:53:59,393 --> 00:54:05,613
We still pay the state 75% of their funds for that case for 10% of the work.

1013
00:54:07,493 --> 00:54:08,733
Think about that, right?

1014
00:54:08,993 --> 00:54:09,153
Yeah.

1015
00:54:09,153 --> 00:54:13,053
And incentivize them to do the right thing versus the wrong.

1016
00:54:13,233 --> 00:54:13,513
Correct.

1017
00:54:13,753 --> 00:54:16,513
Instead of litigating for three, four or five, whatever.

1018
00:54:16,513 --> 00:54:18,413
I'm a whole life of the child.

1019
00:54:18,973 --> 00:54:20,213
Hey, this is the standard.

1020
00:54:20,353 --> 00:54:22,493
You want me to rule or you guys want to come to this agreement?

1021
00:54:22,813 --> 00:54:24,153
We can be out of here in an hour.

1022
00:54:24,733 --> 00:54:24,873
Cool.

1023
00:54:24,873 --> 00:54:30,953
that's sounds like you got a lot of stuff on your plate that you want to change in america buddy

1024
00:54:30,953 --> 00:54:40,133
and i got six years to do it man oh you're gonna do it um i i think if you stay the course and

1025
00:54:40,133 --> 00:54:44,013
you literally stick to everything that you're saying here you're going to get there i i don't

1026
00:54:44,013 --> 00:54:48,773
i don't think that it's going to be an issue for you really and again who knows what 2020s could

1027
00:54:48,773 --> 00:54:59,673
look like that race but i think you already starting off with the right foot and you have the right attitude You not doing it for fame or money You literally just saying this is why we need to change policy

1028
00:54:59,753 --> 00:55:01,113
We need to change laws.

1029
00:55:01,313 --> 00:55:03,593
We need to change the way things are done.

1030
00:55:03,713 --> 00:55:10,433
You need to care about your own community, which if I'm going to be honest, many people that run for Congress run for the paycheck and the connections.

1031
00:55:10,433 --> 00:55:12,673
They don't really care about their own community.

1032
00:55:13,373 --> 00:55:15,293
So that's the right approach.

1033
00:55:15,293 --> 00:55:17,593
and the fact that you want to reform Congress

1034
00:55:17,593 --> 00:55:18,753
to work against yourself.

1035
00:55:20,653 --> 00:55:21,273
That's cool.

1036
00:55:21,513 --> 00:55:23,833
I want to install that in system and go home.

1037
00:55:24,213 --> 00:55:24,893
And you know what, man?

1038
00:55:24,913 --> 00:55:27,093
I'll tell you the selfish part.

1039
00:55:27,433 --> 00:55:27,673
Sure.

1040
00:55:27,993 --> 00:55:29,333
I would love this name record

1041
00:55:29,333 --> 00:55:30,553
because again, I don't want to be famous,

1042
00:55:30,673 --> 00:55:32,353
but I need to be known to get elected.

1043
00:55:32,773 --> 00:55:34,773
But I would love for to be elected

1044
00:55:34,773 --> 00:55:38,793
to spur my book sales to where I am retired

1045
00:55:38,793 --> 00:55:41,313
and some of my books are being made into movies

1046
00:55:41,313 --> 00:55:42,433
and that's my job.

1047
00:55:42,433 --> 00:55:48,413
and I am volunteering and helping and just writing and yeah.

1048
00:55:48,413 --> 00:55:50,273
And that's a convenient segue there,

1049
00:55:50,353 --> 00:55:50,493
Keith.

1050
00:55:50,573 --> 00:55:54,253
Cause I was literally going to ask you that next was not on purpose,

1051
00:55:54,413 --> 00:55:55,293
but caught me.

1052
00:55:55,533 --> 00:55:57,013
I think we're just vibing here,

1053
00:55:57,053 --> 00:55:57,173
man.

1054
00:55:57,193 --> 00:55:57,953
I don't know what it is,

1055
00:55:57,993 --> 00:55:58,373
but no,

1056
00:55:58,473 --> 00:55:59,313
please.

1057
00:55:59,313 --> 00:56:01,753
I was going to ask you about what led you to be an author.

1058
00:56:01,973 --> 00:56:02,473
I was,

1059
00:56:02,553 --> 00:56:02,713
I was,

1060
00:56:02,773 --> 00:56:03,733
I saw that and I was like,

1061
00:56:04,053 --> 00:56:04,253
Hmm.

1062
00:56:04,333 --> 00:56:04,613
Okay.

1063
00:56:04,893 --> 00:56:05,873
Congress and an author.

1064
00:56:05,913 --> 00:56:06,693
And you know,

1065
00:56:06,693 --> 00:56:07,513
you have a lot of ambition.

1066
00:56:07,513 --> 00:56:10,313
So explain your journey there and what led you to write books.

1067
00:56:10,313 --> 00:56:17,613
so um i just released it but i actually started with this series called proximal war and it took

1068
00:56:17,613 --> 00:56:25,333
me almost 10 or almost two years almost at 10 years that's ridiculous um but i'm people i know

1069
00:56:25,333 --> 00:56:32,433
but i'm such a nerd so the series it's a planned five book series and it literally is to answer

1070
00:56:32,433 --> 00:56:39,713
the question us as humanity we are type zero civilization what happens if we actually meet

1071
00:56:39,713 --> 00:56:40,973
a type 2 civilization.

1072
00:56:42,053 --> 00:56:43,753
And so for people that don't know,

1073
00:56:44,033 --> 00:56:46,733
technically we're like 0.7 type.

1074
00:56:47,273 --> 00:56:48,693
So a type 1 civilization

1075
00:56:48,693 --> 00:56:50,533
can actually harness

1076
00:56:50,533 --> 00:56:52,933
all the power of their planet.

1077
00:56:53,753 --> 00:56:55,313
A type 2 can harness

1078
00:56:55,313 --> 00:56:57,293
all the power of their star.

1079
00:56:57,713 --> 00:56:59,133
And a type 3 is their galaxy.

1080
00:56:59,373 --> 00:57:00,973
Type 4 is the universe.

1081
00:57:01,293 --> 00:57:03,253
And this comes from the 70s

1082
00:57:03,253 --> 00:57:05,853
from a Russian scientist.

1083
00:57:06,053 --> 00:57:07,473
So anyway, that's the idea.

1084
00:57:08,233 --> 00:57:09,313
What happens if

1085
00:57:09,713 --> 00:57:15,073
There's an alias species that literally can harness the power of their star and we meet them.

1086
00:57:15,893 --> 00:57:17,653
And I'll just tell you, we are bugs.

1087
00:57:18,653 --> 00:57:19,953
We are straight up bugs.

1088
00:57:19,953 --> 00:57:28,433
And so I went into this with zero hand waving and I wanted full military and marine tactics.

1089
00:57:28,433 --> 00:57:35,733
so i pull and it is it might be 4 000 plus years in the future but it is straight up current

1090
00:57:35,733 --> 00:57:54,713
magtaf rain air ground task force tactics within it and it makes makes the deaths brutal it is definitely not a kid book i can tell you yeah it is not because fighting in that environment would be unreal so there no faster than light speed and

1091
00:57:54,713 --> 00:58:00,913
all this other stuff everything is based in as much as i could find to have zero hand waving

1092
00:58:00,913 --> 00:58:08,993
those that have read it they're like this is crazy when's book two so i haven't even started

1093
00:58:08,993 --> 00:58:14,253
book too but we're almost there and that's what got me on the road and then the other two series

1094
00:58:14,253 --> 00:58:23,633
literally came from fighting writer's block okay yeah and it started with the kids series

1095
00:58:23,633 --> 00:58:30,413
and it's joey america and i wanted well let's just face it i wanted a kid a cool patriotic

1096
00:58:30,413 --> 00:58:37,713
kid that wanted to learn some cool shit i didn't want you know just an animal and it makes this

1097
00:58:37,713 --> 00:58:43,093
noise. No, I wanted to show them things they don't get to see. So I started with how a helicopter

1098
00:58:43,093 --> 00:58:49,253
flies. And I don't hold back on the vocabulary because kids are smart. And we shouldn't be

1099
00:58:49,253 --> 00:58:55,953
teaching them basic costs. You can show them. And so I learned a lot about STEM learning before I did

1100
00:58:55,953 --> 00:59:02,293
it. And you actually learn more in STEM learning at this age group with the pictures than you do

1101
00:59:02,293 --> 00:59:07,413
with the words. So every one of the books has aircraft in it. And they're as accurate as I can

1102
00:59:07,413 --> 00:59:13,373
possibly be i show them the actual gauges and everything um then book two i took him to alaska

1103
00:59:13,373 --> 00:59:19,353
where i grew up and i joey builds a snow cave and sleeps in it and i show them the proper way to do

1104
00:59:19,353 --> 00:59:23,853
it and they get to see cool stuff like flying towards denali and seeing a moose and seeing the

1105
00:59:23,853 --> 00:59:29,073
aurora borealis you know so joey just gets to see all these cool things that nobody else even gets

1106
00:59:29,073 --> 00:59:36,293
to see i even have him go train with recon marines for a day dang so he's doing halo jumps and

1107
00:59:36,293 --> 00:59:38,693
fast roping and all this cool stuff.

1108
00:59:39,213 --> 00:59:40,293
And yeah. What's your

1109
00:59:40,293 --> 00:59:41,773
age demographic for that?

1110
00:59:42,773 --> 00:59:44,393
So there's no weapons in that book.

1111
00:59:44,473 --> 00:59:45,533
It's all just training. But

1112
00:59:45,533 --> 00:59:48,213
each book has its own age range. So

1113
00:59:48,213 --> 00:59:50,193
the youngest one is Fly a Helicopter and

1114
00:59:50,193 --> 00:59:52,333
then America 250. So I actually

1115
00:59:52,333 --> 00:59:54,173
took kids through a bunch of the major

1116
00:59:54,173 --> 00:59:56,253
milestones in America. But I don't

1117
00:59:56,253 --> 00:59:58,293
focus on all just the basic

1118
00:59:58,293 --> 01:00:00,253
ones. I actually pulled some cool ones in there like

1119
01:00:00,253 --> 01:00:02,213
When the Right Flyer, Breaking the Sound

1120
01:00:02,213 --> 01:00:04,393
Barrier, When Our Three Major Sports

1121
01:00:04,393 --> 01:00:06,133
Leagues Were Created, things like that.

1122
01:00:06,293 --> 01:00:12,613
And so that one's a little older, but mostly because the language is a little bit more in depth.

1123
01:00:12,873 --> 01:00:13,313
Okay.

1124
01:00:13,353 --> 01:00:16,853
So it's kind of all over the place because I'm all over the place.

1125
01:00:17,913 --> 01:00:18,593
Fair enough.

1126
01:00:19,193 --> 01:00:22,233
Did you have a website or anything?

1127
01:00:22,533 --> 01:00:27,813
Because I was trying to look up where people could get your books, but I couldn't find it for some reason.

1128
01:00:28,293 --> 01:00:28,753
Yeah, that's right.

1129
01:00:28,873 --> 01:00:32,093
I made it easy for people, so I put it right on my campaign site.

1130
01:00:32,713 --> 01:00:33,393
And it's not connected.

1131
01:00:33,653 --> 01:00:47,112
Yeah I didn connect it to my campaign but there a page as a author uh the author page And I put all the books right there and people can link it straight in Hold on I going to pull that up then so people can see that

1132
01:00:47,572 --> 01:00:48,252
So here's your web.

1133
01:00:48,832 --> 01:00:49,752
This is the one you're talking about.

1134
01:00:49,972 --> 01:00:50,112
Yeah.

1135
01:00:50,192 --> 01:00:51,752
See, it says Keith, the author right there.

1136
01:00:51,932 --> 01:00:52,692
Oh, I missed that.

1137
01:00:52,792 --> 01:00:53,332
There it is.

1138
01:00:53,592 --> 01:00:53,832
Gotcha.

1139
01:00:53,972 --> 01:00:54,152
Boom.

1140
01:00:54,592 --> 01:00:55,552
And there's all the books.

1141
01:00:56,652 --> 01:00:56,972
Okay.

1142
01:00:56,972 --> 01:01:01,812
So there's your Joey America, your Proxima War, Dark Horizon.

1143
01:01:01,912 --> 01:01:02,412
What's that about?

1144
01:01:02,412 --> 01:01:10,552
that is a uh so that's one of the only characters in in um my travel read series that actually

1145
01:01:10,552 --> 01:01:17,232
repeats so he's a former marine aviator uh that flies drones in del rio and he catches cartels

1146
01:01:17,232 --> 01:01:22,592
using drones to smoke the trucks so that one those two right there are actually kind of

1147
01:01:22,592 --> 01:01:30,352
attached to my political political policies devil hog uh inbound is about uh military aircraft

1148
01:01:30,352 --> 01:01:34,832
procurement and how much better we could do it without spending as much money.

1149
01:01:35,992 --> 01:01:39,112
Awesome. And then these are available everywhere?

1150
01:01:39,652 --> 01:01:44,632
Yep. They're all over the place. So they go on Amazon first, then IngramSpark second,

1151
01:01:44,772 --> 01:01:48,532
and then they just spread out from there. Very cool, man. Very cool.

1152
01:01:49,452 --> 01:01:55,392
There's a few. Yeah, I see that. So author to congressional candidate,

1153
01:01:55,392 --> 01:01:56,732
Marine.

1154
01:01:57,652 --> 01:01:59,712
I mean, you got the full package, it sounds like.

1155
01:02:00,632 --> 01:02:02,052
I'm doing my best.

1156
01:02:02,912 --> 01:02:03,112
Yeah.

1157
01:02:03,272 --> 01:02:05,372
And trying to...

1158
01:02:05,372 --> 01:02:06,392
And it harms the family.

1159
01:02:06,512 --> 01:02:07,092
It really does.

1160
01:02:08,132 --> 01:02:09,712
It takes a lot of time from them.

1161
01:02:10,172 --> 01:02:14,792
But most of the time, it's very supportive because they see what I'm trying to do.

1162
01:02:14,912 --> 01:02:16,372
They see that it's not for fame.

1163
01:02:16,552 --> 01:02:17,392
It's to...

1164
01:02:17,972 --> 01:02:19,712
Yeah, you want to affect real change.

1165
01:02:20,092 --> 01:02:21,152
So if anyone...

1166
01:02:21,152 --> 01:02:24,032
For those of you who can't see the web address, I'll just say it here.

1167
01:02:24,032 --> 01:02:30,432
It's bartonfortexas.com, B-A-R-T-O-N-fortexas.com.

1168
01:02:31,972 --> 01:02:34,932
Keith, you want to add anything else before we sign off here, sir?

1169
01:02:35,352 --> 01:02:36,352
Yeah, thank you.

1170
01:02:36,532 --> 01:02:37,352
I appreciate it.

1171
01:02:37,372 --> 01:02:41,192
It was a great conversation, and I'm glad you didn't hold back.

1172
01:02:41,792 --> 01:02:45,012
And yeah, I'm very appreciative of your time.

1173
01:02:45,492 --> 01:02:49,852
No, we can have more conversations for sure down the road, especially because you're running

1174
01:02:49,852 --> 01:02:52,172
for 2028, so we can reconnect for sure, man.

1175
01:02:52,172 --> 01:02:55,032
Okay, so if there's nothing else

1176
01:02:55,032 --> 01:02:56,452
I'm going to end it here

1177
01:02:56,452 --> 01:02:58,992
Everybody support Keith Barton

1178
01:02:58,992 --> 01:03:01,112
Run for Congress for 2028

1179
01:03:01,112 --> 01:03:03,232
Buy his books, support this man

1180
01:03:03,232 --> 01:03:05,492
He wants to do some really good things for America

1181
01:03:05,492 --> 01:03:07,872
And while you're at it, support this damn show

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Author | Advocate | Congressional Candidate

Keith Barton is a 20 year Marine Corps veteran, former military aviator, author, congressional candidate, and advocate for family court reform who brings an unusually broad range of real world experience to a conversation.

His career has taken him from military aviation and overseas service to business operations, public policy, writing, and politics. Today, Keith develops legislative proposals focused on government efficiency, veterans, workforce development, stronger families, and reforming how Congress itself operates. At the center of that work is the American Lean Act, a proposal for a new operating system for Congress built around measurable results, fiscal discipline, government efficiency, and continuous improvement rather than simply creating more programs and spending more money.

His advocacy for family court reform is also personal. After years navigating a complex interstate custody dispute, Keith represented himself on appeal and won a published decision from Florida’s First District Court of Appeal addressing domestic violence evidence in custody proceedings. That experience became part of his larger effort to improve how family courts protect children and parents.

Outside politics and policy, Keith is a prolific author whose work ranges from children’s books to military thrillers, science fiction, and other fiction inspired by his experiences and interests.