When Truth Equals Controversy - Free Speech, AI Warfare, Citizen Journalism, and Geopolitics

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All right, well, hello everyone and welcome to the program as always.

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I am absolutely thrilled that you are here if you've never checked us out before.

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We are primarily an interview and a commentary based podcast.

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Today I kind of have like a co-host situation for you.

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with me on the studio line is George Fonts from World Ablaze. George, I'm so glad you are here.

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Thank you, Billy. I've been wanting to do this for a bit, so I appreciate you having the time for me.

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Absolutely, George. I always have time for you, George. George is the host of World Ablaze,

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like I said, with George Fonts, a show that delivers unfiltered, no bullshit conversations

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and commentary about politics, news, and geopolitics.

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With a mostly center, often right-leaning stance,

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he delivers analysis and informed opinions that cut through the noise

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as he presents facts, data, and thought-provoking commentary

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with both guests and his solo episodes.

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George, talking about the subject matter that you do,

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how much grief do you get?

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Because I'll tell you what I know.

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in the podcast, especially as it's grown, is people will criticize some of the things

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that we present in this program.

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And I have no idea what they listen to.

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That's the weird thing.

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It's like it's so far off the mark of what I said.

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I've often said people are entitled to their own opinion.

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And now we have a situation where people are entitled to their own reality.

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and now it seems they hear what they want to hear.

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I find that very frustrating.

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Have you had that experience?

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Well, I would say yes, but I'm going to present it differently

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because alongside podcasting, which you're an absolute veteran at,

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you've been doing it way longer than I have.

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So you've seen this thing progress and grow throughout the years.

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Yeah.

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But alongside podcasting, we have other forms.

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we have a live stream, which is literally to me, not even podcasting. It's just television at this

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point. But alongside that, we have social media. And then we also have to look at what YouTube has

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become and what TikTok has become. So what happens in my experiences, you get into what you're asking

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is sometimes you're taken out of context or you wonder like, well, what are you comparing my

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statement to or my material to? And what I think it is more often than not, or what I know it is

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more often than not, is they're not even watching, let's say, the clip, the video, or even listening.

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They see the title, they see the picture, and they have an opinion right out the gate before even hearing you out.

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And that can absolutely be frustrating because you're just being judged based on whatever the hook is as far as the title.

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And I've had people comment on many clips I've done, and I'm just like, I got to a point, Billy, where I was like,

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did you even watch the video?

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you know because there's there's times where i'll actually take clips of other people speaking

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themselves not necessarily me making the comments or the accusations or whatever it is it'll be the

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individual themselves and they would pin it on me as being well you're you're a crazy fringe right

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winger maga or whatever they want to call me um and of course i'm talking when it comes to politics

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but it's like i don't think people even take the time and and when you look at the stats if you look

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at the analytics most people like they try to measure things for example like download for

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podcasting 60 seconds right whatever it is a minute iab but the reality is i've found that many people

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what's considered a view on youtube whatever site as long as you click on it it's a view and most

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people don't even get past the first three seconds on most things their attention span is that short

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You're lucky if you get them to do 30, much less watch a full minute.

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And even for any content that's a minute to two minutes, I find most people don't even get past 30 seconds on anything.

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And so they're not even hearing what you have to say.

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Or even if the content we're making in short form can absolutely be taken out of context.

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I mean, it's something meant to capture your attention.

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But what I find is people can't even get through one minute of conversation or presentation.

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so when we're talking about a podcast that's one to two hours unless you have a guest that is like

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let's say we actually do book president trump or um aoc or someone like that or any any big author

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or movie star they're gonna just look at the title they're gonna click on it and then they just kind

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of like go away and it's not i don't think it's i don't think it's anything on you or me or anyone

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else it's just their attention span is that short because while they're watching your video they got

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something else popping up over here. Like, I don't know, a cat playing with a ball of yarn,

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like, oh, look, funny cats. And that's just what it is. So I don't take it personal whatsoever.

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You and I know that you can measure who your fan base is. You know, by the numbers, who's consistent,

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by what part of the country, which country, wherever it comes from, you can see the consistency

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and you can see the people that show up each and every episode. You can see the people that show up

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each and every stream. So I don't really take it personal. I just come to realize

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they're not even getting through the material, especially when I would talk about the DSA.

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Just an example, because it's happened recently on Facebook, where I had a video about the

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DSA.

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Got over 13,000 views, allegedly.

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But if you look at the comments, most of them were based on my title because I would have

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to rebut half of what they're saying by going, did you even get past the first 10, 15 seconds?

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I actually addressed that.

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You know what I'm saying?

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So I think people are reactionary.

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They're triggered by titles.

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They're triggered by artwork.

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And they're not even willing to take the time to hear anyone out.

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I think everyone goes in with a preconceived assumption of what you're about and what you're talking about.

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And when it comes to geopolitics, like if we're talking about conflicts in the Middle East, if we're talking about Ukraine, anything like that, I tend to do deep dives.

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I tend to really try to know what I'm talking about based on important to say the information

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at the time, right.

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Of the recording.

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And so I will back up my statements based on what I find is not really an assumption.

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And if it is, I will say, Hey, based on these findings, this is my opinion, or this is what

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I think could be the connections of what's going on.

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But in between that, you know, everything holding it together, all everything holding

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that, that, that body work together, the sinew, the tendons, everything else, like, you know,

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it's based on the facts and data that I've already dove into and research or SMEs I've talked to.

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So it can be disheartening, you know, getting back to your question.

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It's like, yeah, you know, you'll get criticism, you'll get comments.

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But I also find there's a lot of people that don't even get past the first three or even 30 seconds,

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if they even get that far, of most people's content to really understand or grasp, you know,

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the entire message or whatever it is you're presenting.

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So that's what I find, you know, and I try not to take that personal.

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Yeah. You're set up a little bit differently. My audience is primarily on the audio platforms and they listen while they're commuting, lunch, things like that. So the long form content for me is about 45 minutes, you know, but the videos on, you know, the clips and stuff on social media, that's where you get the reactionary stuff.

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Yes. And I guess I expect it to a point, but like I said, they'll be commenting on something that the video had nothing to do with.

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I'll, you know, for example, we're going to talk about Nick Shirley here in a minute.

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Sure. And I'll get a bunch of comments in there about Trump.

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I never said anything about Trump.

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Exactly.

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So, yeah, Nick Shirley, let's go there because just before I came on, you know, in recent news, they passed this Nick Shirley Act in California.

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Yeah. They claim it's veiled in a way that is supposed to protect people's privacy, as in doxing and things like that.

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And they also claim that it's to protect people from having violence put onto them.

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So I believe most people can see through this pretty clearly.

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A lot of the comments that I see and a lot of the major pundits will make the comment, well, he's not a real journalist.

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He's just somebody going around with a camera or phone or what have you.

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I'm not exactly sure what a real journalist is.

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I mean, for example, if you work for CNN, you're not a cop.

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You don't have any authority.

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Nobody owes you anything in terms of giving you an answer.

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And it's no different for somebody who just grabs a camera and goes and investigates something.

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neither one of these are investigative bodies. They are both trying to presumably find an answer

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to something. So this idea that he's not a real journalist, I find a little bizarre.

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What's your take on that? Well, my take on this law is really

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trying to avoid scrutiny and accountability is all it is. And we got to go back to defining what

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a journalist is. I mean, is it literally just someone who's given the nod or the pat on the

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back with a badge and a name tied to a large media company, let's say like Fox, for example,

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not calling Fox out, but just saying that it's recognizable.

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Just an example.

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Sure.

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And so is that what it's become?

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Does that mean that nobody else in the world has a right to question or take investigatory

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measures upon themselves?

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That doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.

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So Nick Shirley is someone that rose primarily on X.

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and I remember when he was coming up

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and the reason he got big,

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let's just back up.

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The reason he got big

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is because he got platformed

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by a larger account.

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I think it was Tucker Hadamon

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or something or talked to him,

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something like that.

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I could be wrong,

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but it was someone like that.

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And then all of a sudden,

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he blew up.

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Now, if it wasn't for that,

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he wouldn't be as big as he is.

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But at the same time,

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I'm not going to discredit him

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because he's uncovered actual fraud.

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He's brought things to light

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with his platform.

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So he took the opportunity

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that he got and the platform that he got and ran with it.

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And he's literally a citizen journalist.

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Now, sure, maybe he's not a professional in the sense that he's not getting,

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because what really separates a professional from an amateur, right?

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It's just a paycheck.

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If you're doing a professional, you're getting paid to do it.

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So he does get money from, I'm sure, from social media.

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I'm sure he gets things from being a creator.

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Oh, absolutely.

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What's sickening about this is they want to discredit him,

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say he's not a real journalist because he's a citizen journalist well let's let's backtrack i

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remember when people realized that the mainstream media was lying to you and and they decided well

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we're gonna take this into our own hands because we found out that they are lying for many many

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years uh not every outlet but you know for the most part that that was that was the norm and

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people were like oh okay so that's when you had people like nick shirley starting to come up and

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question and he would go from location to location and actually try to get in there.

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And that was a difference he was doing versus people just commenting on platforms like X,

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for example.

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He said, well, maybe I should just go there.

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To me, that is what a journalist does.

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They ask questions.

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They confirm the question by interviewing people, by getting firsthand account and knowledge

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of the event or situation.

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This is exactly what he's doing.

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So I'm not sure how they can say he's not a journalist at this point.

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I think this law with California is just a way for them, again, to avoid accountability.

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It's no different than when Gavin Newsom not long ago said, well, I don't know where the money is.

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You can't audit the missing $24 billion.

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Literally said that.

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Like, what do you mean you can't audit it?

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That doesn't make any sense.

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So this is just California trying to cover their own butts.

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This is them trying to not be under the heat lamp, so to speak, right?

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They don't want to be exposed because they do have some mainstream media people in their pocket.

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Nick is not in their pocket.

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They don't like that.

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And the way that they are acting, California representatives themselves, I forgot the individual, but the man that came up to his face and was trying to harass or yell at him.

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And this is an elected official.

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Okay, so who's more credible at this point, right?

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Yes.

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So how is this to protect them from being doxxed?

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I don't understand.

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And what it is is to protect them from being named as either accomplices or people that were directly involved or the people that committed these alleged crimes or fraud manipulation coercion commingling of funds even in some cases So I think that all this was because they know they can trust an

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independent journalist like Nick Shirley because he's not beholden to anybody.

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But they know that if a mainstream media outlet calls,

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they might have a connection and go, hey, you need to shut this guy down.

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They can't do that with an independent journalist.

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So that is the whole reason I see them getting behind and passing this.

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To me, that's the only reason.

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Yes. I find it one of the more outlandish violations of rights because here's why.

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The term free speech gets thrown around a lot.

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And quite honestly, most of the people who use the term are using it incorrectly.

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It doesn't apply in as many cases as people think it does.

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But here's a case where you have a direct parallel of the government trying to shut somebody up.

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That's exactly what the First Amendment is for.

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You know, you're saying something the government doesn't like, so they can't shut you down.

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That's exactly what it's for.

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And this is a classic case.

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Well, it's not federal, it's state, but nonetheless, the idea here is we don't like what this guy's saying and we need to shut him up.

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That's exactly it.

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I mean, First Amendment free speech is, what people don't realize, it is exactly what you said.

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It's to protect your right to free speech against the government and governing bodies.

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Like you have a right to criticize.

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You have a right to call out.

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And it's especially important when we consider this democratic republic in which we have to elect officials to represent us.

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Well, if they're not representing you the way that you thought because they lied to you or they're not doing the job they're supposed to, then you should be able to call them out and question them and give them your commentary or opinions based on their job performance.

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but it doesn't extend to you or me having an argument and me you know for example insulting

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you that's not what free speech is you know protections about you don't have a right to use

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your free speech to incite violence or to try to get people organized to basically uproot and

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overthrow the government i mean you could it's in our constitution that you can we do have a right to

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overthrow a tyrannical government.

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But if that's not the case,

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you're not really

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protected under free speech. I think

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the government in general

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has been very loose

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on this because they

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don't want to be scrutinized or get the pushback

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from the citizens. But technically,

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a lot of what we see that people

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claim to be protected under free speech is not.

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And they literally do not necessarily have

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the right to say the things or do

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the things that they do. A protest

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is one of them. You have a right to peacefully protest. You don't have a right to protest and

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do whatever you want, how you want, where you want. Many times it's organized and you're said

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or told by officials that, sure, we're not going to fringe on your right to protest,

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but you got to do it over here. And you can't be violent and you can't stop people from driving

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their cars down the highway, for example. Those are things you're not allowed to do.

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But I think our government has been very lax and loose in actually enforcing policy

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as it was written or meant to be interpreted in the Constitution

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because they don't want to be scrutinized.

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Because right now, it's volatile as it is.

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I mean, we saw it was volatile under Biden and under Trump.

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It's also volatile.

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And I think a lot of people have mistrusted the government on either side.

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So I think to some degree, they're kind of hands off

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and just kind of letting things play out and see where the chips fall.

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But as far as California goes, free speech does extend to the press.

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And that means they have a right to ask questions.

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They should be able to ask questions and investigate.

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So, yeah, there's rules.

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I mean, I agree.

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You can't just dox somebody, right?

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You have to do due diligence.

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It has to be backed by actual real investigations.

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It has to be corroborated by other individuals.

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But all in all, Billy, I think California has been a problem for many years.

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The government here does not look out for their people.

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And I live in California.

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And I just interviewed the other day a California Senate candidate.

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And we talked about a lot of this.

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And so we hope that it turns around.

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But this whole thing is Nick Shirley is very ridiculous.

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It's basically California telling everyone in California that we can do what we want and you can't question it.

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And if you're not an approved person that we consider worthy to take our time and talk to, then you're not allowed to talk to us at all.

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Like the public cannot address us.

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That's what they're saying.

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Yeah.

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That's exactly what they're saying.

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It's like I said, the idea that it's in California right now, but what always worries me about things like this is, is it going to grow and is it going to become more severe?

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is going to become more restrictive.

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And that's something that we're going to definitely have to watch.

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One of the other biggest stories that is getting a lot of attention

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is Lindsay Clancy.

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Yes.

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And for those of you that may not know,

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Lindsay Clancy is on trial at the time of recording No Vertic Jet

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for killing her three.

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Are they actually in the sentencing phase?

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Is that correct?

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I'm not exactly.

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Because she pleaded guilty.

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I believe that's where they are now.

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I've been in and out because I'm pretty busy.

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But this is what I understand based on what I have spoken about.

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And so, I mean, first, let's just address the children.

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Sure.

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And let's talk about the kind of person that she may or may not be.

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But here's what happened.

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she allegedly well not allegedly because i can't say allegedly see that's the thing i'm not i'm not

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sure what the official court rooting is we'll say allegedly but here's she admitted to killing her

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three kids this is why i say that billy's because her defense admitted that she killed her kids

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okay so at what point is it still alleged but okay i'll i'll use i'll use the term allegedly

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so just in case but her own defense admitted that okay so there's no denial

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And so what I believe was going on or from what I read, this whole thing was really her and her defense team trying to shift blame.

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Tried to shift blame to the husband.

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Tried to shift blame to her mental care practitioners.

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Tried to shift blame to everyone else except for her.

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And when you think about the act, it's like she strangled, first off.

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Strangling is an up-close personal.

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You got to look that person in the eyes or whatever,

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but you are not just shooting them and walking away from a distance.

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You got to get up there and personal.

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So there's motivation, there's hatred, there's a lot of emotion,

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but first off, there is motivation because you have to physically get out there,

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get that person, and do that heinous act.

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And so the other thing that is glossed over and was mentioned a little bit,

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the kids were five years old three years old and eight months so how do you go from one kid to

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another to the eight year old i mean eight month year old and just continue to proceed to choke

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your children yeah the other thing is no matter what the defense is she sent her husband out

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to go pick something up that day and then brought her children down to the garage or whatever and

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then this is when she carried out the act well that sounds like premeditation now i'm not a lawyer

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But based on what I've read, sounds like premeditated murders.

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What sounds like, what's how it reads anyway, allegedly, I guess.

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Right.

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But so what's really appalling to me is first off, you know, that, that ended up self-assisting.

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But what's appalling is the amount of women who stood up to support her.

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That's the thing.

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And say, well, you don't understand what it's like.

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Well, the women in videos who are saying that, well, there's times I want to kill my kid and joke.

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You have no idea what it's like being a mother.

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okay, maybe I don't.

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I'm a man.

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But do you know what it's like being a father?

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Right?

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It's like, how does any of this justify someone killing their children,

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like physically killing their children?

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It just doesn't.

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So we live in the upside down right now.

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I think this world is getting stranger and crazier every day.

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It really is.

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This is something that should never have been celebrated ever.

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to me there's

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nowhere in my world where there's a gray area here

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now I can get the defense where she was heavily medicated for six months

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on different medications etc

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but the way the act was carried out wasn't something

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that seemed to be very spur of the moment or emotional based on

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how she was chemically balanced or inbalanced

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in her mind or body it was really she sent her husband out

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away so he couldn't intercede

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right she did what she did

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and proceeded to cut her wrists and

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throat and jump out a second story window

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like this was planned

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so I don't know what the

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sentencing will actually be I think they're just

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trying to avoid maybe a death penalty I don't know

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if that's what was on the table I'm not sure what the actual sentence

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is supposed to be but

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the defense is trying to shift blame so that

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she's not held accountable for her actions

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and it's

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crazy

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what's odd is the

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amount of people that have

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come out to defend this. And I know you use the word that we shouldn't be celebrating it. And a

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lot of people say, well, nobody's celebrating. Well, there were journalists in the audience,

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in the courtroom, smiling and grinning and mugging for the camera. This was all,

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you know, a thing that they really do want to get behind. And I want to be clear here, what,

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you know, postpartum depression, you know, being on any number of different

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drugs, legal or illegal, PTSD, coming from a bad environment where you're inured into a violent

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lifestyle. These are all components of someone's defense. And they might apply more in some cases,

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not in other cases, but the idea is bigger than this. We are now in a situation where there is an

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enormous percentage of people that will excuse somebody that's in their group, no matter what

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they do or how heinous it is. And the amount of women that have come out and really think that we

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should have empathy and sympathy for this and that this was, you know, the system failed her

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and we should all hang our heads over this. If everybody who had postpartum depression did this,

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we would have a completely different world.

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We'd have to have guards on mothers.

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And typically, this is something that happens

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postpartum depression.

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There's different variations of it.

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I'm not a psychologist,

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but typically the one that most people experience,

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most young mothers experience,

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lasts for a very short period of time.

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I mean, it's a month or two or whatever.

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Yeah, usually it's not,

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if you had an eight-month-old

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and you're still carrying postpartum,

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I mean, there's other issues going on.

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Now, look, this is what I'm going to say.

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And I've said this previously.

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Why should we be sympathetic to whatever it is that she had to go through as a mother, allegedly because of postpartum?

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And she's blaming, not her directly, but people support her blaming the system.

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Oh, they failed her.

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They didn't diagnose.

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They didn't treat her correctly.

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Okay, so great.

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I understand there is an argument there, but why do we not have the same sympathy for Ed Gein?

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Ted Bundy, the Night Stalker, Richard Ramirez, or Charles Manson?

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Because the system failed them as well.

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We didn't treat them mentally, you know,

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go look after their mental health before they committed the act they did.

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Many of these people did get diagnosed by someone or saw, you know,

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seen by somebody when they were growing up in school or whatever.

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Where's the sympathy for these people?

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Why does it extend to them?

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Because they murdered people?

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Well, what did this lady do?

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Why is that excusable?

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Well, I'll tell you where things have really turned.

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was Casey Anthony. Okay, you know, Casey Anthony was, you know, acquitted. She was not convicted.

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She walked out of the courtroom and she was reviled by women all across the country.

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And I guess, I guess you could say, well, all right, well, Casey Anthony was a sociopath. Well,

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okay, if that's true, system failed her. And hey, she was a sociopath. She killed her kids.

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I guess you gotta let that go And that where we at That where we at with this case And I don like the idea that violent crime I not for insurance executives getting shot on the street

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I'm not for anybody getting shot on the street.

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I don't want to see citizens shot on the street.

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I don't want to see any types of heinous acts committed against anyone, regardless of the attacker's political leanings.

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I don't care. I don't care if they're conservative or liberal or what they are.

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We cannot allow. We cannot condone.

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We cannot take such a lighthearted stance to violent crime.

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That is my issue with this.

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And it just seems like every case that comes up now is another step in that direction of being okay with it.

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it's i hate to say this but it's almost like you know we're living in one of those movies where

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you know hell breaks the you know third or fourth plane and the demons are running around the earth

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all of a sudden you know it's like watching one of those movies because you know you got to ask

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yourself like what is behind the acceptance of this behavior or these behaviors you know why is

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it suddenly okay you know and if you look at the progression of this i mean if we want to really

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really, really point out part of the issue.

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I'm not going to debate abortion.

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I'm just going to use this as an example.

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Sure.

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The acceptance, not just the acceptance of abortion,

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but the acceptance of longer-term abortion,

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like up to six months, then it's eight months,

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then it's whatever.

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Now it's almost too full-term from what I hear.

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And so you've seen the incremental acceptance

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of getting to the point where it's like, eh, you can kill your child.

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Now, the question is going to be, where's society going to draw the line?

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Because apparently you can kill the five-year-old and everyone's okay with it.

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But what if they turn 10?

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Is that where we draw the line?

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Or is it until they're 18 and they're still under your roof?

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I don't understand.

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What are we doing?

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None of it makes sense.

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It's just all crazy.

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You're not being livid.

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That's a fair question.

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And the only thing I will say is this.

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I know that, you know, men get a bad rap these days.

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Men are so terrible.

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And I grew up around alpha males.

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I don't know if I was one or not, but, you know, a lot of them never said a politically correct thing in their life.

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And I got to tell you, even in my darkest moments around these guys, in my darkest moments when we were really talking shit, I never, ever once, and even in our most private moments, heard any of them defend somebody,

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defend a man who killed his children or beat his wife.

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No, not going to happen.

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Not once ever.

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No.

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Not once ever.

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No, you're not.

457
00:28:51,043 --> 00:28:52,023
That's what's crazy.

458
00:28:52,243 --> 00:28:53,103
That's what's crazy, right?

459
00:28:53,843 --> 00:28:59,143
I really don't know what else to say about this other than I'm not going to understand

460
00:28:59,143 --> 00:29:00,503
what these women are talking about.

461
00:29:00,503 --> 00:29:05,204
And I honestly don't want to come to their level because to me, that's just a huge lack

462
00:29:05,204 --> 00:29:05,763
of morality.

463
00:29:05,763 --> 00:29:11,403
it's really on the border of just tearing apart the fabric of humanity

464
00:29:11,403 --> 00:29:14,063
as far as I see it.

465
00:29:14,444 --> 00:29:20,043
And especially Western society or our society here in the United States of America,

466
00:29:20,164 --> 00:29:21,204
which is where the crime's committed.

467
00:29:21,464 --> 00:29:23,903
So it's like none of this really makes sense whatsoever.

468
00:29:25,164 --> 00:29:29,123
And it makes you wonder, I'm not getting religious, but damn, are we at end times?

469
00:29:29,204 --> 00:29:30,204
Or like, what's going on here?

470
00:29:30,243 --> 00:29:32,743
Because I'm seeing the progression of crazy stuff happening

471
00:29:32,743 --> 00:29:36,803
almost every day that makes you wonder,

472
00:29:37,184 --> 00:29:40,223
makes me wonder, why me? Why this timeline?

473
00:29:40,523 --> 00:29:44,003
What's going on? And I've seen the changes.

474
00:29:44,003 --> 00:29:48,283
I've seen the changes from when I was a kid to now. It's like it has ramped up the craziness.

475
00:29:48,464 --> 00:29:51,583
It can be overwhelming, for sure.

476
00:29:52,043 --> 00:29:55,664
Yes, it can. You're in California.

477
00:29:56,343 --> 00:30:00,223
How are the data centers being looked at in California?

478
00:30:00,223 --> 00:30:08,343
it's you know it's it's one of the where i live for example that just came up okay um allegedly

479
00:30:08,343 --> 00:30:13,383
some city council people were approached or lobbied for a data center allegedly you know a

480
00:30:13,383 --> 00:30:18,023
lot of these people will basically say things and throw breadcrumbs out to see who bites and see how

481
00:30:18,023 --> 00:30:26,363
people accept things and whatnot so i take it with a grain of salt but i think that here so far data

482
00:30:26,363 --> 00:30:31,283
centers are looked at just about as much, you know, or similar as everywhere else in

483
00:30:31,283 --> 00:30:35,223
the U S I think there's a big misconception about data centers and I'm probably a flack

484
00:30:35,223 --> 00:30:38,924
for it, but I, I see that where they could be harmful.

485
00:30:39,723 --> 00:30:43,903
Um, but I also see where there are companies that are building data centers that are trying

486
00:30:43,903 --> 00:30:49,823
to build their own off grid power sources and, and other resources to make sure that

487
00:30:49,823 --> 00:30:53,803
they're not taxing, you know, the citizens that like the system.

488
00:30:53,803 --> 00:30:56,783
Yeah, they're just not taxing the cities or the towns.

489
00:30:57,684 --> 00:31:01,724
So if they're doing that, I'm not sure how detrimental they are.

490
00:31:01,724 --> 00:31:10,103
Now, I keep hearing about how they poison the waters and whatnot, but I'm not sure I've ever seen a definitive report that actually proves that.

491
00:31:11,263 --> 00:31:16,763
But I'm still open to like, if it is, then okay, I see the point.

492
00:31:17,243 --> 00:31:22,303
Now, where I'm going with this is I'm kind of opposed and not opposed because there's a couple of things here.

493
00:31:22,303 --> 00:31:29,003
one it it definitely adds a lot of jobs now then we can argue who's getting those jobs

494
00:31:29,003 --> 00:31:37,224
and if you want to get into that i can and then we can also um talk about well the u.s needs more

495
00:31:37,224 --> 00:31:43,424
data centers because this is this is a global competition um china's been leading the charge so

496
00:31:43,424 --> 00:31:51,283
it's who's going to win out in this because as of now china's military has been having ai applied

497
00:31:51,283 --> 00:31:53,623
to, we can call it decision making.

498
00:31:54,883 --> 00:32:00,164
They have advanced robots and other things that incorporate AI

499
00:32:00,164 --> 00:32:02,363
where it seems like the US looks to,

500
00:32:02,463 --> 00:32:04,583
or at least they're not revealing what's really going on,

501
00:32:04,623 --> 00:32:05,723
but we seem to be behind.

502
00:32:06,803 --> 00:32:10,223
And so there is a race in terms of like,

503
00:32:10,303 --> 00:32:12,523
who's going to own the AI space.

504
00:32:12,843 --> 00:32:15,143
And you think it would be the US since we have,

505
00:32:15,243 --> 00:32:16,983
you know, like Google and chat,

506
00:32:17,063 --> 00:32:19,184
GBT and open AI and all these other things.

507
00:32:19,184 --> 00:32:22,383
We have SpaceX, Elon Musk who did Grok.

508
00:32:23,643 --> 00:32:30,043
And you would think it'd be the US, but it really doesn't, there's no indication that that's actually going to be true.

509
00:32:30,283 --> 00:32:34,164
So this is another war, really.

510
00:32:34,303 --> 00:32:38,823
It's a war to own the artificial intelligence space is what it is.

511
00:32:38,883 --> 00:32:48,343
So if we're not doing what we need to do to keep up with the rest of the world, we're either going to lose our place as a global leader or we're just going to get left behind altogether and we're just going to be owned.

512
00:32:48,343 --> 00:32:50,523
I mean, that's just the truth.

513
00:32:51,243 --> 00:32:51,863
So that's my opinion.

514
00:32:51,983 --> 00:32:54,303
But as far as how California is seeing it, I think it's a mixed bag.

515
00:32:54,424 --> 00:32:58,843
I think it's basically like whatever you're hearing around the country, to be quite honest.

516
00:32:58,983 --> 00:33:05,803
I mean, there's some people who are informed, and there's others that just live on the surface of information, see the headline, and they go, oh, okay, I guess we can't have that.

517
00:33:07,323 --> 00:33:07,863
Everyone's dying.

518
00:33:08,123 --> 00:33:13,343
People are walking around with tumors on their back because a data center opened.

519
00:33:13,343 --> 00:33:14,203
Like, oh, okay.

520
00:33:15,523 --> 00:33:17,343
It's convoluted.

521
00:33:18,343 --> 00:33:21,403
And it's hard to decide what's going on, but the reality is this.

522
00:33:21,463 --> 00:33:25,684
We either got to play ball and jump in the game or we're going to be out of it.

523
00:33:25,684 --> 00:33:30,424
And AI is eventually going to determine who's going to be the global powers.

524
00:33:30,664 --> 00:33:34,803
And the U.S. may not be that if we're not keeping up with the change.

525
00:33:35,523 --> 00:33:39,843
So there's my answer on how people seem to view it and a little bit of my opinion.

526
00:33:39,843 --> 00:33:49,523
Back in my day, the boogeyman was those big power lines that crossed the country in the steel grid towers.

527
00:33:50,063 --> 00:33:51,823
Those were the things that were going to kill you.

528
00:33:52,623 --> 00:33:55,763
And more recently, we've had 5G.

529
00:33:56,023 --> 00:33:57,703
Everybody was all upset about that.

530
00:33:57,903 --> 00:33:59,164
That was going to kill you.

531
00:33:59,883 --> 00:34:01,664
And I don't know what they're going to say about 6G.

532
00:34:01,743 --> 00:34:03,403
That's about 18 months, two years away.

533
00:34:03,523 --> 00:34:07,023
But it's extremely fast compared to 5G.

534
00:34:07,123 --> 00:34:08,303
It's not just one step up.

535
00:34:08,303 --> 00:34:09,664
I mean, it's a whole other level.

536
00:34:09,843 --> 00:34:13,343
So I don't know how long we're all going to survive that.

537
00:34:13,943 --> 00:34:19,564
But I'm very hesitant to get on the panic bus about these data centers.

538
00:34:19,683 --> 00:34:21,403
Now, they're going to have issues, of course.

539
00:34:22,363 --> 00:34:25,423
I know a lot of people bring up the amount of water that they use.

540
00:34:26,283 --> 00:34:35,523
You know, beef, beef industry, the coffee bean industry, all of these things use more water than data centers do.

541
00:34:35,523 --> 00:34:40,763
and here again, I'm not in any way, shape or form saying that these are harmless

542
00:34:40,763 --> 00:34:42,423
or something that we shouldn't keep an eye on.

543
00:34:42,523 --> 00:34:46,983
They're new and it's just like with any other industrial thing

544
00:34:46,983 --> 00:34:48,584
that we are implementing in our society.

545
00:34:48,683 --> 00:34:50,483
We got to keep an eye on it to make sure it's safe

546
00:34:50,483 --> 00:34:52,463
and it's properly regulated and so forth.

547
00:34:53,084 --> 00:34:57,463
But the idea that this is, oh, we have people over in Ohio

548
00:34:57,463 --> 00:34:59,943
with signs all over the place, no data centers.

549
00:34:59,943 --> 00:35:02,483
I really agree with you.

550
00:35:02,624 --> 00:35:04,183
China's ahead of us in a lot of ways.

551
00:35:04,983 --> 00:35:08,144
We don't need to get behind the eight ball with AI.

552
00:35:09,104 --> 00:35:12,843
You know, the Pentagon admitted they can't stop the hypersonic missiles.

553
00:35:13,903 --> 00:35:20,644
And I don't know where all this money that, you know, I'm not against a big budget for defense.

554
00:35:21,064 --> 00:35:23,723
All these trillions of dollars that they spend, I'm not against that.

555
00:35:24,023 --> 00:35:25,684
But I'd like to know where it's all going.

556
00:35:26,463 --> 00:35:28,604
We don't have enough missiles apparently in Iran.

557
00:35:29,763 --> 00:35:31,403
Where's all this money going?

558
00:35:31,783 --> 00:35:32,124
I know.

559
00:35:32,243 --> 00:35:33,104
Well, that's what they say.

560
00:35:33,104 --> 00:35:37,104
they say we don't have enough missiles you got you got to understand when it comes to conflict

561
00:35:37,104 --> 00:35:42,863
you know part of conflict is misdirection yeah right so i i don't know the actual truth on that

562
00:35:42,863 --> 00:35:46,863
and if the government was really themselves low on munitions why would they tell everybody publicly

563
00:35:46,863 --> 00:35:51,463
why would they tell their enemy that or whoever they're in conflict with so i i'm taking that

564
00:35:51,463 --> 00:35:58,703
with a grain of salt but as far as data data centers go we already have them we've had them

565
00:35:58,703 --> 00:36:01,584
What do people think AWS is?

566
00:36:02,243 --> 00:36:04,003
What do they think cloud servers are?

567
00:36:05,023 --> 00:36:06,644
They're trying data centers.

568
00:36:07,104 --> 00:36:08,703
Meta, for example, huge.

569
00:36:08,823 --> 00:36:10,723
Google, they've all had these for a long time.

570
00:36:11,303 --> 00:36:12,923
And I'll even go back to SETI.

571
00:36:13,003 --> 00:36:15,104
I don't know if you know what that is or remember what they are.

572
00:36:15,323 --> 00:36:24,463
But basically, it was an organization that was trying to explore space and see, is there life?

573
00:36:24,544 --> 00:36:25,124
Is there aliens?

574
00:36:25,124 --> 00:36:31,503
but what they did there was this thing where you would be able to allow them to use extra resources

575
00:36:31,503 --> 00:36:36,323
by piggybacking off of your computer somehow i'm not sure how it actually worked but technically

576
00:36:36,323 --> 00:36:42,523
they were able to use the entire world as a giant data center um especially when it came to resources

577
00:36:42,523 --> 00:36:53,023
so i i get it i get i get the concern but the unfortunate reality is you know we've been in the

578
00:36:53,023 --> 00:36:56,963
data age, I mean, since the 90s.

579
00:36:57,523 --> 00:37:01,164
And we've just been putting off, you know,

580
00:37:01,403 --> 00:37:05,183
flipping the switch. I mean, I don't want to see

581
00:37:05,183 --> 00:37:09,443
large, let's put it this way. The one thing I don't want to see is the urbanization

582
00:37:09,443 --> 00:37:13,203
of every damn inch of land in the United States. I want to see

583
00:37:13,203 --> 00:37:17,144
trees and grass. I want to have the open air. And the only thing that I fear

584
00:37:17,144 --> 00:37:21,363
is with data centers is those resources

585
00:37:21,363 --> 00:37:27,544
that we all enjoy are just given way to the race to become the king of ai for example

586
00:37:27,544 --> 00:37:32,644
and we've we've seen that with many small towns that have been forced to be like these cookie

587
00:37:32,644 --> 00:37:40,124
cutter um places where you have the same mcdonald's the same you know hardware store home depot lowes

588
00:37:40,124 --> 00:37:45,983
whatever like no matter where you go there's no more characters no more individual um culture in

589
00:37:45,983 --> 00:37:48,003
anything. It's just one big

590
00:37:48,003 --> 00:37:49,963
giant, you know, I

591
00:37:49,963 --> 00:37:52,003
don't know what you call it. I mean, I guess a culture, but

592
00:37:52,003 --> 00:37:53,963
it's like there's no

593
00:37:53,963 --> 00:37:55,963
individuality or uniqueness anymore, no matter

594
00:37:55,963 --> 00:37:57,903
where you go. And so I think the data

595
00:37:57,903 --> 00:38:00,124
centers could further push

596
00:38:00,124 --> 00:38:02,003
that along because, hey, we

597
00:38:02,003 --> 00:38:04,023
need to be first. We're in this

598
00:38:04,023 --> 00:38:05,943
race to be first in the world, but with

599
00:38:05,943 --> 00:38:07,783
that, we're going to have to

600
00:38:07,783 --> 00:38:09,743
appropriate your land. And

601
00:38:09,743 --> 00:38:12,124
we're going to have to build this because it benefits

602
00:38:12,124 --> 00:38:14,023
the United States. So there's

603
00:38:14,023 --> 00:38:15,943
a lot of different arguments and ways to look at it.

604
00:38:15,983 --> 00:38:18,703
But reality is if we're not in, we're out.

605
00:38:19,124 --> 00:38:21,323
And then how we figure out everything else in between.

606
00:38:21,483 --> 00:38:23,363
I mean, that's where the arguments are going to really be.

607
00:38:23,423 --> 00:38:25,303
It's not whether or not we need to do it.

608
00:38:25,624 --> 00:38:34,343
It's how are we going to do it that benefits everybody and still allows us to live as humans within the towns and cities we live in.

609
00:38:34,763 --> 00:38:34,863
Yeah.

610
00:38:35,184 --> 00:38:37,023
I think that's going to be the bigger issue.

611
00:38:37,023 --> 00:38:42,023
I drove from, my wife and I did drove from Ohio to Florida in June.

612
00:38:42,184 --> 00:38:44,763
Boy, that's a long drive.

613
00:38:44,763 --> 00:38:52,003
And I was really amazed as you go down the highway, you know, the train changes a little

614
00:38:52,003 --> 00:38:54,323
bit and gets a little bit more hilly.

615
00:38:54,323 --> 00:39:13,435
It a little bit more forestry and but it the same signs It the McDonald it Subway you know the same gas stations and even the different lawyers in the different regions must be all using the same advertising firm because it the same slogans with different names

616
00:39:16,915 --> 00:39:26,815
And yeah, we joked that we drove to Florida to have, we went to a roadhouse or one of those kind of places.

617
00:39:26,815 --> 00:39:31,695
you know, and we could have done that in Ohio.

618
00:39:32,615 --> 00:39:39,435
And I think the personality of the country is shifting, like you said.

619
00:39:40,655 --> 00:39:44,695
I remember when I traveled when I was little with my mom and dad, and there was a distinct,

620
00:39:44,755 --> 00:39:48,615
when you were in North Carolina, you felt like you were in a different country, a different world.

621
00:39:48,615 --> 00:39:56,855
I mean, the cooking, the hotels, everything was that Southern appeal.

622
00:39:57,895 --> 00:39:59,695
And I didn't see that on my trip in June.

623
00:39:59,795 --> 00:40:00,475
I didn't see it.

624
00:40:00,915 --> 00:40:08,215
I just saw more McDonald's, more Subway, all those places.

625
00:40:09,075 --> 00:40:10,615
That's what I've noticed also.

626
00:40:11,915 --> 00:40:18,155
I mean, we've been fortunate enough to find certain towns or destinations that still have their charm.

627
00:40:18,615 --> 00:40:23,275
But you can see it slowly being eroded away.

628
00:40:23,495 --> 00:40:34,575
Every time you go to visit, there's just a little bit more of an encroachment on the plan to turn everything into whatever it is that whatever organization is behind it.

629
00:40:34,895 --> 00:40:35,515
I don't know.

630
00:40:35,675 --> 00:40:36,655
We get conspiratorial.

631
00:40:36,775 --> 00:40:42,935
But there really does seem to be a concerted effort to make everything the same, no matter where you go.

632
00:40:42,935 --> 00:40:47,475
Like everything from the push for 15-minute cities.

633
00:40:47,475 --> 00:40:50,175
And I know a lot of people say, oh, let's not get into that.

634
00:40:50,495 --> 00:40:51,035
WEF stuff.

635
00:40:51,215 --> 00:40:56,255
Well, I'm sorry, but California literally did bring it up when it came to the Palisade fires and when they're trying to rebuild it.

636
00:40:56,555 --> 00:41:01,975
Instead of pushing to rebuild the homes, they're trying to push for, hey, wouldn't it be great if we just build all these apartments?

637
00:41:02,055 --> 00:41:04,415
We're going to go ahead and we're going to let this happen.

638
00:41:04,935 --> 00:41:09,435
And then with that, we're going to try to make sure that whatever you need is in 15 minutes.

639
00:41:09,615 --> 00:41:10,915
Oh, wait, you're referring to 15 minutes.

640
00:41:10,995 --> 00:41:11,875
I thought that was a conspiracy.

641
00:41:12,135 --> 00:41:14,135
And then they said the same thing about Dublin, California.

642
00:41:15,135 --> 00:41:16,915
I'm like, hmm, okay.

643
00:41:17,475 --> 00:41:23,315
Maybe there's some validity to some of the things that are considered kooky or fringe or outside crazy.

644
00:41:23,535 --> 00:41:26,775
But it doesn't justify every conspiracy.

645
00:41:26,995 --> 00:41:30,275
I'm just saying that there does seem to be a movement.

646
00:41:30,575 --> 00:41:40,935
There is something out there, organization, shadow government, whatever, that does seem to be driving America towards whatever it is that is not America anymore.

647
00:41:42,835 --> 00:41:45,135
All the way from open borders.

648
00:41:45,135 --> 00:41:47,075
to like, and that's another thing

649
00:41:47,075 --> 00:41:48,995
we, I don't understand, Billy.

650
00:41:49,075 --> 00:41:50,755
I mean, I'm not going to talk about immigration

651
00:41:50,755 --> 00:41:52,995
and whether or not people have a right to

652
00:41:52,995 --> 00:41:54,935
seek asylum because they do, but you still have to

653
00:41:54,935 --> 00:41:55,975
prove it. It's not given.

654
00:41:57,075 --> 00:41:58,235
But at the same time,

655
00:41:58,995 --> 00:42:00,955
when it comes to borders, they never should be open.

656
00:42:01,275 --> 00:42:02,815
I mean, borders define your nation, your

657
00:42:02,815 --> 00:42:04,855
sovereignty, they protect your culture, they protect

658
00:42:04,855 --> 00:42:06,415
what you are. And so

659
00:42:06,415 --> 00:42:08,975
it's as if the U.S. is under

660
00:42:08,975 --> 00:42:10,995
more scrutiny about their borders than any other

661
00:42:10,995 --> 00:42:12,735
country in the world. It's as if

662
00:42:12,735 --> 00:42:14,715
they want the U.S. to be nothing more than an

663
00:42:14,715 --> 00:42:16,755
economic zone. And that's

664
00:42:16,755 --> 00:42:17,635
not what we are.

665
00:42:18,595 --> 00:42:20,795
So it's just very interesting to see

666
00:42:20,795 --> 00:42:22,215
the push by

667
00:42:22,215 --> 00:42:24,775
nefarious actors, organizations from the outside

668
00:42:24,775 --> 00:42:26,555
trying to shape this country into

669
00:42:26,555 --> 00:42:28,755
what we're never going to

670
00:42:28,755 --> 00:42:30,635
recognize again. But the people being born,

671
00:42:30,795 --> 00:42:32,755
the generations to come, they're not

672
00:42:32,755 --> 00:42:34,715
going to lose a difference either. So is it going to really

673
00:42:34,715 --> 00:42:36,335
make a difference is the question. I don't know.

674
00:42:36,755 --> 00:42:37,935
I really don't.

675
00:42:38,435 --> 00:42:40,855
It would be sad to see what this

676
00:42:40,855 --> 00:42:42,735
country was built on just lost

677
00:42:42,735 --> 00:42:43,615
to the wind.

678
00:42:43,615 --> 00:42:51,335
Yeah. Well, that's what the left takes the idea that we should have secure borders as being anti-immigration.

679
00:42:51,495 --> 00:42:54,455
No, we just don't want people pouring across and we don't know who they are.

680
00:42:54,735 --> 00:42:59,275
Of course, they always have a way of answering no, that's racism, that's this and that.

681
00:42:59,555 --> 00:43:05,095
So before I let you go, I'm not exactly sure.

682
00:43:05,195 --> 00:43:08,455
We talked about we don't know where we stand on certain things anymore.

683
00:43:09,455 --> 00:43:12,875
I don't know exactly what is going on with Iran.

684
00:43:13,615 --> 00:43:23,915
I think if I had to define it from the best I can is we're stuck.

685
00:43:24,035 --> 00:43:24,795
We're in a stalemate.

686
00:43:25,795 --> 00:43:34,735
And I think the president and his administration thought that once they toppled the government,

687
00:43:35,615 --> 00:43:40,735
once they cut off the head of the snake, that the regime was going to fall.

688
00:43:41,215 --> 00:43:47,755
And I think a lot of people thought that there was a movement in Iran for a revolution prior to this.

689
00:43:47,935 --> 00:43:50,215
That's when they killed all those tens of thousands of people.

690
00:43:51,975 --> 00:43:57,755
And we went in under the premise of, well, we've got to get their nuclear capabilities.

691
00:43:57,915 --> 00:44:00,335
Well, we don't have their nuclear capabilities out of there.

692
00:44:00,835 --> 00:44:01,995
Now the straits in play.

693
00:44:03,195 --> 00:44:04,675
And first it's open, then it's not.

694
00:44:04,755 --> 00:44:05,795
Then it's open, then it's not.

695
00:44:05,875 --> 00:44:06,935
Then it's open, then it's not.

696
00:44:06,935 --> 00:44:12,475
And I don't think people really have an appreciation for how big Iran is.

697
00:44:12,575 --> 00:44:14,155
It's much bigger than Iraq.

698
00:44:14,835 --> 00:44:16,735
You know, it's like half the United States.

699
00:44:17,755 --> 00:44:20,215
And it's very mountainous.

700
00:44:20,935 --> 00:44:22,095
It's very treacherous.

701
00:44:23,055 --> 00:44:29,555
And they have those nuclear supplies buried under a lot of mountain rock.

702
00:44:29,555 --> 00:44:39,275
And even those busting, bunker busting bombs that go beneath the surface and explode can't quite reach them.

703
00:44:40,775 --> 00:44:46,115
So I'm not sure where this is going to go with this particular regime in place.

704
00:44:46,295 --> 00:44:49,655
Because as long as that regime is in place, they're not going to hand them over.

705
00:44:50,795 --> 00:44:54,835
I don't think we're going to send ground forces in there, which may be the only way to get them out.

706
00:44:56,255 --> 00:44:58,135
So I don't know what's going to happen here.

707
00:44:58,135 --> 00:45:00,015
Do you have any predictions?

708
00:45:02,275 --> 00:45:04,735
I don't have a prediction.

709
00:45:05,735 --> 00:45:17,535
So I would say that there's a lot going on here that people overlook or gloss over because they choose to ignore the history and relationships around the world, literally geopolitics.

710
00:45:18,595 --> 00:45:24,615
And the one thing I could say about this Iran situation, I have my opinions.

711
00:45:24,795 --> 00:45:26,815
I personally don't think the Islamic regime should exist.

712
00:45:26,815 --> 00:45:27,875
That's just how I feel.

713
00:45:27,955 --> 00:45:29,395
No one's ever going to sway me different.

714
00:45:30,015 --> 00:45:34,255
I think this can's been kicked down the road for nearly 50 years and Trump is finally dealing with it.

715
00:45:34,875 --> 00:45:37,715
The problem I have with how Trump's dealing with it, though, is he's a hammer.

716
00:45:38,715 --> 00:45:54,115
And instead of moving forward with a plan that involved your actual allies, the only person that he decided to, or country or nation, rather, that he decided to align with in doing anything with Iran was Israel.

717
00:45:54,115 --> 00:46:00,995
And I'm not anti-Israel, but that is like spit in the face of your other allies because it's like, well, hold on.

718
00:46:01,715 --> 00:46:12,335
What goes on there also affects the UK and France and many other NATO nations because, I mean, gas fertilizer or whatever the hell it is comes out of the strait because it's right there.

719
00:46:13,235 --> 00:46:19,815
So I think Trump's been a hammer and that's upsetting everybody because he's basically going, you know what?

720
00:46:19,995 --> 00:46:21,215
I'm tired of this.

721
00:46:21,215 --> 00:46:24,055
I'm just going to handle it without getting anyone else's input.

722
00:46:24,115 --> 00:46:25,395
Or so it seems.

723
00:46:25,695 --> 00:46:28,335
Now, we don't know what happens behind the scenes because I'm not the president.

724
00:46:28,975 --> 00:46:31,855
I don't know what he's actually seeing or what he's being told.

725
00:46:32,775 --> 00:46:35,095
But Iran needed to be dealt with.

726
00:46:35,275 --> 00:46:41,075
Okay, we're talking about an area that was Persia that has slowly been turned into what it is over time.

727
00:46:44,055 --> 00:46:46,135
I kind of want to say invasion.

728
00:46:46,995 --> 00:46:53,495
I'm not trying to offend anybody, but let's just say that Islam slowly over many years turned that nation into what it is now.

729
00:46:53,495 --> 00:46:54,015
Oh, absolutely.

730
00:46:54,115 --> 00:46:56,575
It wasn't Islam, didn't exist.

731
00:46:56,675 --> 00:46:57,635
That was not their religion.

732
00:46:58,155 --> 00:47:05,155
And we're talking about a system of belief that is very much, as much as they deny it, is very political.

733
00:47:05,595 --> 00:47:08,295
It's a system that breeds authoritarianism.

734
00:47:08,395 --> 00:47:09,235
And that's exactly what it is.

735
00:47:09,235 --> 00:47:10,515
They have an authoritarianism.

736
00:47:10,995 --> 00:47:13,715
I'm sorry, an authoritarian theocracy as their government.

737
00:47:14,875 --> 00:47:22,455
So you abide by the faith or you die or you're scrutinized or whatever it is.

738
00:47:22,455 --> 00:47:26,675
And, you know, as much as they try to sweep those actions under the rug, they always seem to come to light.

739
00:47:27,415 --> 00:47:41,155
I will say that in the nearly 50 years Islamic regime has been in power, I can't ever, ever get anybody to answer the question, which is how have they been a benefit to the Middle East this entire time since they took power?

740
00:47:41,835 --> 00:47:44,535
What have they done to benefit the Middle East?

741
00:47:45,355 --> 00:47:45,795
Nothing.

742
00:47:46,635 --> 00:47:49,395
What they have done is they've harassed everybody.

743
00:47:49,395 --> 00:47:53,855
okay and i and i know we're gonna have these anti-israel people that are gonna listen to this

744
00:47:53,855 --> 00:48:00,195
and like oh it's the jews okay sure either we could have an argument for that but the reality is

745
00:48:00,195 --> 00:48:06,675
we also have no answer for why iran has been allowed to antagonize oman and encroach on their

746
00:48:06,675 --> 00:48:10,955
territorial waters all these years we also don't have an answer as to why the uk has never stepped

747
00:48:10,955 --> 00:48:17,995
in one of oman's oldest ally by the way ever stepped in to defend oman or put iran in their

748
00:48:17,995 --> 00:48:19,635
place and say, hey, wait a minute.

749
00:48:20,875 --> 00:48:22,035
You don't have control

750
00:48:22,035 --> 00:48:24,075
over here. Your side is over

751
00:48:24,075 --> 00:48:25,955
here. It's over there.

752
00:48:26,735 --> 00:48:27,155
And so

753
00:48:27,155 --> 00:48:29,615
a lot of the waterways

754
00:48:29,615 --> 00:48:31,875
in terms of shipping lanes, actually most

755
00:48:31,875 --> 00:48:33,955
of the deepest parts where you can

756
00:48:33,955 --> 00:48:35,695
travel literally

757
00:48:35,695 --> 00:48:37,975
is through Omani

758
00:48:37,975 --> 00:48:39,935
territory and

759
00:48:39,935 --> 00:48:41,875
waters as well. But that's never

760
00:48:41,875 --> 00:48:43,915
stopped Iran from harassing ships all

761
00:48:43,915 --> 00:48:45,995
these years or boarding them

762
00:48:45,995 --> 00:48:47,115
or stopping them

763
00:48:47,115 --> 00:48:50,255
or imposing fees or fines depending on who they are

764
00:48:50,255 --> 00:48:51,735
and what country they're tied to, etc.

765
00:48:51,995 --> 00:48:53,755
So they've been doing this for years.

766
00:48:54,515 --> 00:48:57,215
It's just come to light more because Trump stepped in

767
00:48:57,215 --> 00:48:59,515
and people just don't like Trump apparently.

768
00:48:59,515 --> 00:49:02,295
And so that's why it's bad now.

769
00:49:02,955 --> 00:49:07,895
But the situation we're in, it's very telling of the world.

770
00:49:08,215 --> 00:49:13,455
And in my opinion, it's funny how people are willing to tolerate evil

771
00:49:13,455 --> 00:49:15,775
for the sake of certain conveniences.

772
00:49:15,775 --> 00:49:18,655
and I do call them evil because I believe they are

773
00:49:18,655 --> 00:49:20,915
I really do not care what anyone says

774
00:49:20,915 --> 00:49:21,955
you're not going to convince me otherwise

775
00:49:21,955 --> 00:49:23,935
I've done enough research on the history of Islam

776
00:49:23,935 --> 00:49:26,835
I've done enough research on the conquests

777
00:49:26,835 --> 00:49:28,675
and on their ideology

778
00:49:28,675 --> 00:49:29,975
and what comes from it

779
00:49:29,975 --> 00:49:31,495
and the unfortunate reality is

780
00:49:31,495 --> 00:49:33,475
I'm also going to tell you this

781
00:49:33,475 --> 00:49:35,495
and everybody else who wants to call me a racist

782
00:49:35,495 --> 00:49:36,715
Muslim is not a race

783
00:49:36,715 --> 00:49:39,615
Muslim literally defined as a person who practices

784
00:49:39,615 --> 00:49:41,675
and worships

785
00:49:42,495 --> 00:49:43,675
Islam

786
00:49:43,675 --> 00:49:49,755
Islam. That's it. It's a religion. And so anyone can be a Muslim. I could be one. It's not race.

787
00:49:50,495 --> 00:49:50,855
Sure.

788
00:49:51,415 --> 00:50:01,875
And so we have an example of Islam itself, the religion, the way that the regime has been handling it has been used to coerce and control people.

789
00:50:03,035 --> 00:50:07,495
Indonesia, by population, has the largest Muslim population in the world.

790
00:50:08,155 --> 00:50:11,675
But how many terrorist organizations do you hear that are Indonesian?

791
00:50:11,675 --> 00:50:20,195
the difference is how islam is being used by those who want to control the world period

792
00:50:20,195 --> 00:50:24,315
we don't see that in indonesia and in fact any terrorist organization that did

793
00:50:24,315 --> 00:50:30,795
come to light or try to rise in indonesia was because certain individuals wanted to go to the

794
00:50:30,795 --> 00:50:34,375
middle east to experience islam and they brought that back with them and then they started trying

795
00:50:34,375 --> 00:50:38,055
to i think it was three terrorist organizations that tried to rise up in indonesia and the

796
00:50:38,055 --> 00:50:42,435
government said well no we're not going to have this and they shut them down they did not allow it

797
00:50:42,435 --> 00:50:48,535
so the reason i bring that up is because we can we can sit here and say muslim bad islam bad

798
00:50:48,535 --> 00:50:53,675
personally i can care less about islam it's just not my thing and i i don't believe it's compatible

799
00:50:53,675 --> 00:50:59,535
with the west but at the same time it isn't right for me to just say all muslims bad because

800
00:50:59,535 --> 00:51:01,475
we don't see that in Indonesia.

801
00:51:02,115 --> 00:51:04,235
We just see it

802
00:51:04,235 --> 00:51:05,395
for some reason

803
00:51:05,395 --> 00:51:08,075
in the extreme practices

804
00:51:08,075 --> 00:51:10,035
in the Middle East and it has bled

805
00:51:10,035 --> 00:51:10,915
into Africa,

806
00:51:11,995 --> 00:51:13,775
Nigeria, many countries

807
00:51:13,775 --> 00:51:15,875
in Africa where Christians are being

808
00:51:15,875 --> 00:51:17,515
slaughtered by the thousands by

809
00:51:17,515 --> 00:51:19,735
Islamic terrorist regimes or

810
00:51:19,735 --> 00:51:20,255
organizations.

811
00:51:21,635 --> 00:51:23,655
So Iran needed to be dealt with at some

812
00:51:23,655 --> 00:51:25,655
point, period. It's just people

813
00:51:25,655 --> 00:51:27,535
don't like how it's being dealt with because it was

814
00:51:27,535 --> 00:51:32,675
trump it was going to happen sooner or later they also don't like it because oh my gas is more

815
00:51:32,675 --> 00:51:41,835
expensive well you've had i'm sorry but you know since 1979 or eight to deal with this uh there

816
00:51:41,835 --> 00:51:47,375
were pipeline proposals by many of the gulf states that nobody else wanted to back there was there

817
00:51:47,375 --> 00:51:51,015
was even i mean this would have been hard to do but there was also a proposal of a canal to be

818
00:51:51,015 --> 00:51:56,715
built to bypass the street of hormus nobody wanted to get behind it everyone was like oh no way we're

819
00:51:56,715 --> 00:51:58,555
good, you know, we'll just hands off.

820
00:51:58,555 --> 00:52:01,595
And then now here we are in the UK and France and everybody else is whining.

821
00:52:01,595 --> 00:52:02,555
Oh my God, it's expensive.

822
00:52:02,555 --> 00:52:03,855
I need my fertilizer, whatever.

823
00:52:03,855 --> 00:52:04,855
You've had plenty of opportunity.

824
00:52:04,872 --> 00:52:07,272
all these years to prepare for this type of situation.

825
00:52:07,552 --> 00:52:10,232
If they would have taken that away from Iran from the get-go,

826
00:52:10,312 --> 00:52:12,932
we wouldn't be here right now because that's all they had.

827
00:52:13,252 --> 00:52:14,272
How are they making their money?

828
00:52:14,512 --> 00:52:14,752
Oil.

829
00:52:15,632 --> 00:52:16,832
I mean, largely oil.

830
00:52:17,552 --> 00:52:18,532
You know, fertilizer is secondary.

831
00:52:18,792 --> 00:52:21,932
I mean, the U.S. is one of the top suppliers and producers of fertilizer.

832
00:52:21,932 --> 00:52:23,832
It's not just fertilizer you can get from Iran.

833
00:52:24,172 --> 00:52:25,692
There's plenty of places to get it.

834
00:52:26,452 --> 00:52:29,172
And so I think the world was tolerant of evil,

835
00:52:29,172 --> 00:52:31,692
and they didn't act because they figured,

836
00:52:31,812 --> 00:52:34,172
well, you know, they're not bothering me, directly anyway.

837
00:52:34,172 --> 00:52:40,912
and here we are she hits the fan and they're like uh who do we blame oh it's trump's fault well

838
00:52:40,912 --> 00:52:47,232
you also didn't get yourself in a position to prepare for any of this either so i think you're

839
00:52:47,232 --> 00:52:51,072
you're right to a degree that we are a stalemate and but we got to under we got to understand why

840
00:52:51,072 --> 00:52:56,712
we're at a stalemate we're at a stalemate because trump has publicly stated many times that he

841
00:52:56,712 --> 00:53:02,712
doesn't want to see military personnel die and that is exactly what's going to happen if he goes

842
00:53:02,712 --> 00:53:04,832
all in. He's afraid to go all in. I think

843
00:53:04,832 --> 00:53:06,812
he's been posturing and using the might of the U.S.

844
00:53:06,892 --> 00:53:08,812
military to try to get Iran to bend.

845
00:53:09,552 --> 00:53:10,972
He's firing from afar,

846
00:53:11,392 --> 00:53:12,812
right? Missiles from afar, just

847
00:53:12,812 --> 00:53:14,632
lobbying missiles and whatnot and

848
00:53:14,632 --> 00:53:16,452
just beating them, you know,

849
00:53:16,552 --> 00:53:18,692
death from above, so to speak. And it's like

850
00:53:18,692 --> 00:53:20,932
that only lasts so long before you actually

851
00:53:20,932 --> 00:53:22,052
have to send troops in.

852
00:53:22,472 --> 00:53:24,992
The American public doesn't want to see that. I believe

853
00:53:24,992 --> 00:53:26,472
Trump himself doesn't want to do that.

854
00:53:27,032 --> 00:53:28,952
And so here we are. It's either you're going to

855
00:53:28,952 --> 00:53:30,972
fight and finish them off, or you're going

856
00:53:30,972 --> 00:53:35,692
to have to realize that they called your bluff and you're just going to have to cut your losses

857
00:53:35,692 --> 00:53:40,292
that's just what it is so how are we going to defeat iran well you you got to get a buy-in

858
00:53:40,292 --> 00:53:45,372
from your allies and you gotta you've got to come up with policies that you will actually enforce

859
00:53:45,372 --> 00:53:50,692
and the other thing is it's too little too late all of a sudden it's like oh wait you're right we

860
00:53:50,692 --> 00:53:56,872
should build bigger pipelines to the red sea or wherever else or maybe we should have considered

861
00:53:56,872 --> 00:53:59,172
that canal should have done a long time ago.

862
00:53:59,752 --> 00:53:59,832
Yeah.

863
00:54:00,132 --> 00:54:02,612
I mean, everyone in the world was complacent.

864
00:54:02,932 --> 00:54:05,692
This doesn't excuse the situation, by the way.

865
00:54:05,992 --> 00:54:17,908
I just pointing out how we got here It because people were tolerant of the regime because of convenience That exactly what it was In the 47 to 50 years they been in power they have not been a benefit

866
00:54:17,908 --> 00:54:19,788
to the Middle East whatsoever. And there's not

867
00:54:19,788 --> 00:54:21,748
one person that can point to me

868
00:54:21,748 --> 00:54:22,948
or anyone the benefits.

869
00:54:23,528 --> 00:54:25,808
Yeah. I think it's a great

870
00:54:25,808 --> 00:54:27,428
point that you brought up about

871
00:54:27,428 --> 00:54:29,408
Muslims

872
00:54:29,408 --> 00:54:31,688
across the world generally

873
00:54:31,688 --> 00:54:33,348
are not much of a problem.

874
00:54:33,468 --> 00:54:35,488
It's just in that particular region when you start

875
00:54:35,488 --> 00:54:40,728
getting into the Islamist Sharia law, all of these other things.

876
00:54:41,628 --> 00:54:44,608
And here again, the American left, I don't get it.

877
00:54:46,468 --> 00:54:49,228
I think they're afraid of being called Islamophobic.

878
00:54:50,488 --> 00:54:54,688
But what goes on there with like women getting stoned

879
00:54:54,688 --> 00:54:58,308
because they allowed themselves to be in a situation where they got raped.

880
00:54:59,608 --> 00:55:01,688
That is so convoluted.

881
00:55:02,728 --> 00:55:04,088
It was the woman's fault, right?

882
00:55:04,088 --> 00:55:05,208
Yeah, yeah.

883
00:55:05,488 --> 00:55:12,488
And so anyway, that's a complicated region of the world and there's a lot happening there.

884
00:55:12,688 --> 00:55:16,748
So anyway, George, I want to thank you very much for coming on the podcast today.

885
00:55:17,368 --> 00:55:22,008
We've been talking to George Fonts from the World Ablaze podcast.

886
00:55:22,128 --> 00:55:23,828
Where can people find you online, George?

887
00:55:24,568 --> 00:55:25,348
Everywhere, Billy.

888
00:55:25,848 --> 00:55:26,548
Everywhere, I think.

889
00:55:27,508 --> 00:55:30,508
Well, I say that, but I don't work social media very well.

890
00:55:30,508 --> 00:55:34,988
So you'll go to some of my social medias and it's like I don't have any followers because I don't have time.

891
00:55:34,988 --> 00:55:36,948
it's really work it I podcast

892
00:55:36,948 --> 00:55:39,188
I live stream I do all that and to me this

893
00:55:39,188 --> 00:55:40,968
is more my medium I like having conversations

894
00:55:40,968 --> 00:55:43,288
with people like you and really getting down to

895
00:55:43,288 --> 00:55:45,288
the bottom of things through just learning

896
00:55:45,288 --> 00:55:46,948
and having discourse but where they can find me

897
00:55:46,948 --> 00:55:48,988
you can go to world

898
00:55:48,988 --> 00:55:51,668
ablaze podcast.com

899
00:55:51,668 --> 00:55:53,228
so there you can find many links

900
00:55:53,228 --> 00:55:54,788
you'll find episodes etc

901
00:55:54,788 --> 00:55:56,928
all my social medias are

902
00:55:56,928 --> 00:55:59,168
their handles are there and my handle is pretty

903
00:55:59,168 --> 00:56:01,148
simple it's at fonts ablaze

904
00:56:01,148 --> 00:56:02,768
f-o-n-t-e-s ablaze

905
00:56:02,768 --> 00:56:09,488
so there's x there's instagram there's facebook there's tiktok uh substack and again i don't work

906
00:56:09,488 --> 00:56:29,863
them all so if you want to follow me on social appreciate it uh that where you might get some updates and news but for the most part if you go to the website you know world of bliss podcast that that be more where you could find links and whatnot to actually listening to the podcast and or if you want to see any of the streams it be like on rumble and youtube and kick um and then

907
00:56:29,863 --> 00:56:33,903
i've started streaming on x also but i'm going between that and maybe uh twitch but regardless

908
00:56:33,903 --> 00:56:40,403
i'm out there um not too hard to find i don't i don't believe sure you're out there my name is

909
00:56:40,403 --> 00:56:42,383
Billy Dees, you can find the Billy Dees podcast anywhere.

910
00:56:42,583 --> 00:56:43,363
Podcasts are found.

911
00:56:43,523 --> 00:56:46,903
We've been on all the major podcast platforms for over 10 years now.

912
00:56:47,803 --> 00:56:52,503
I maintain social media a little bit, probably most commonly on X.

913
00:56:52,623 --> 00:56:56,143
I'm at Billy Dees on X, which is the former Twitter.

914
00:56:57,403 --> 00:57:03,383
I don't do too much with the tubes of the world because I've gotten too much stuff taken down.

915
00:57:03,623 --> 00:57:04,603
And you know what?

916
00:57:04,603 --> 00:57:22,183
But for the amount of effort that it takes to promote those channels, to operate those technically, to do them well, takes a lot of – and for somebody to say, well, you mentioned something about the weather, wink, wink, and have it taken down.

917
00:57:22,503 --> 00:57:26,383
Or a certain type of shot, wink, wink, and have it taken down.

918
00:57:26,383 --> 00:57:32,863
And what gets me is that I'm not a controversial type of person.

919
00:57:32,863 --> 00:57:42,303
And those topics have been grazed so lightly in conversation and they've been done so objectively.

920
00:57:42,463 --> 00:57:46,603
But if you even mentioned the one side versus the other, it gets taken down.

921
00:57:47,523 --> 00:57:49,823
So, yeah, I'm not into it.

922
00:57:49,823 --> 00:57:50,363
Can I say something?

923
00:57:50,523 --> 00:57:58,303
Because I think that the medium of what they call podcasting or streaming, I don't know what it is anymore, TV show, whatever.

924
00:57:58,303 --> 00:58:05,023
it's it's the problem is we're no longer able to get the content out to people and then you know

925
00:58:05,023 --> 00:58:11,043
they can find it or we can get we can get it in front of people because now you know we're subject

926
00:58:11,043 --> 00:58:16,983
to algorithms yeah it's it's ai and and other scripts and programs are that are scanning

927
00:58:16,983 --> 00:58:21,023
everything going yeah this is our platform and i'm not sure i really want to push you

928
00:58:21,023 --> 00:58:37,959
i not sure we let anybody see your content so it gotten hard and it been a struggle on that front for I think everybody unless you got major push If you were a journalist on Fox or CNN before suddenly you got a podcast and you top of the charts because they got a million ad budget every month behind them

929
00:58:37,959 --> 00:58:38,099
Sure.

930
00:58:39,059 --> 00:58:40,199
And that's just what it is.

931
00:58:40,279 --> 00:58:40,999
And that's the reality.

932
00:58:41,199 --> 00:58:44,539
So I'm disheartened by what this medium has become.

933
00:58:44,679 --> 00:58:45,759
It's become big media.

934
00:58:46,139 --> 00:58:47,259
Literally, it's become an industry.

935
00:58:47,959 --> 00:58:50,879
And it's squeezing out the guys like you and I or you and me.

936
00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:52,959
But it doesn't mean we should stop.

937
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:54,419
So just keep putting it out there.

938
00:58:54,539 --> 00:58:55,499
I'm going to keep putting it out there.

939
00:58:55,579 --> 00:58:57,079
There's always someone who's going to find you.

940
00:58:57,499 --> 00:58:58,899
And that's just what it is.

941
00:58:58,919 --> 00:59:03,079
It's going to be consistency and not intentionally misleading people.

942
00:59:03,359 --> 00:59:05,379
Tell the truth based on the knowledge you have at the time.

943
00:59:05,499 --> 00:59:07,039
I got to say that because things develop.

944
00:59:07,259 --> 00:59:08,639
Sometimes something comes to light.

945
00:59:09,439 --> 00:59:11,359
And so, yeah, just keep doing it.

946
00:59:11,539 --> 00:59:12,119
Just keep pushing.

947
00:59:12,379 --> 00:59:14,139
I mean, never get disappointed.

948
00:59:14,259 --> 00:59:15,139
It's just what it is.

949
00:59:15,179 --> 00:59:16,359
We're always going to be swimming upstream.

950
00:59:17,319 --> 00:59:19,059
That's just the nature of the game at this point.

951
00:59:19,179 --> 00:59:19,659
Yeah.

952
00:59:19,659 --> 00:59:26,199
The truth is always a work in progress, and sometimes you have to be able to talk about things to sift through it.

953
00:59:26,799 --> 00:59:33,699
And it's over the past five years with one event in particular, a certain pandemic, they decided that one side wasn't worth talking about.

954
00:59:33,799 --> 00:59:36,699
And a lot of those things that were said on that side turned out to be true.

955
00:59:36,819 --> 00:59:39,119
But that's another subject for another time.

956
00:59:39,479 --> 00:59:42,379
George, thank you very much, George.

957
00:59:42,459 --> 00:59:43,439
Thanks for hanging out with me today.

958
00:59:43,519 --> 00:59:44,199
Appreciate it.

959
00:59:44,699 --> 00:59:45,059
Yes, sir.

960
00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:46,059
Thank you for having me on.

961
00:59:46,419 --> 00:59:47,359
Awesome, of course.

962
00:59:47,359 --> 00:59:50,239
saying we will talk to you again very, very soon.

963
00:59:54,479 --> 00:59:56,919
Thank you for listening to the Billy Dees podcast.

964
00:59:57,479 --> 01:00:00,239
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965
01:00:00,239 --> 01:00:01,799
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966
01:00:04,019 --> 01:00:07,399
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967
01:00:07,399 --> 01:00:09,259
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968
01:00:09,679 --> 01:00:11,999
How about on your car sound system?

969
01:00:12,399 --> 01:00:14,999
If you use Spotify, Audible or Amazon Music

970
01:00:14,999 --> 01:00:16,239
on any of these systems,

971
01:00:16,239 --> 01:00:19,359
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972
01:00:19,639 --> 01:00:21,499
Billy and his team go the extra mile

973
01:00:21,499 --> 01:00:24,219
to make sure our podcasts sound as good or better

974
01:00:24,219 --> 01:00:25,859
than anything on the radio.

975
01:00:26,279 --> 01:00:29,199
Listening to the Billy Dee's podcast has never been easier.

976
01:00:29,459 --> 01:00:31,059
You literally just have to ask.